Minutes - 12/12/2013 - Planned Development CommissionMINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 12, 2013 SPECIAL
MEETING OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
COMMISSION OF THE VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
APPROVED AS WRITTEN ON DECEMBER 11, 2014
1. CALL TO ORDER: CALL TO ORDER
The Special Meeting of the Planned Development Commission was called to
order by Chairman Champ Davis, Jr. in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the
Butler Government Center at 7:04 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL: ROLL CALL
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairman Champ Davis, Jr., Vice Chairman Marcia Tropinski,
Members Jeffrey Bulin, Thomas Doyle and Simon Sheers
ABSENT: Members Natalie Cappetta and Raju Iyer
IN ATTENDANCE: Robert Kallien, Jr., Director of Community Development,
Michael Hullihan, Village Engineer/Public Works Director,
James Kruger, Police Chief and Jeffrey Marciniak, Battalion
Chief, Fire Department
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES APPROVAL OF
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
COMMISSION OF JANUARY 26.2012
Motion by Member Doyle, seconded by Member Bulin to approve the minutes
of the January 26, 2012 Regular Planned Development Commission meeting as
written. VOICE VOTE: Motion Carried.
4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS UNFINISBED
BUSINESS
There was no unfinished business.
5. A. Case No. 2013- 15- ZO -PUD — OAKBROOK SHOPPING CENTER C/O No. 2013- I5- zO -PUD
OAKBROOK CTR
GENERAL GROWTH PROPERTIES — COMMON AREAS LOCATED CIO GENERAL
WITHIN THE OAKBROOK SHOPPING CENTER — PLANNED GROwTH-
PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT
Chairman Davis reviewed the request and rules for the proceedings.
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Director of Community Development Kallien provided an overview of the
request. He noted that all of the requested improvements are located within the
interior of the Oakbrook Shopping Center and summarized each of the waivers
and variations being requested.
1. Section 13 -7 -313: waiver to permit business uses to occur outside of
enclosed buildings including; the pavilion structures with retractable walls
and adjacent outdoor dining, the specialty retail program and entertainment
within the Village Green area including evening movies.
2. Section 13 -713-1 and 2: waiver to allow as permitted uses, outdoor
dining adjacent to pavilion buildings, outdoor markets and a specialty retail
program satisfying the applicable ordinance criteria, and outdoor evening
movies and events within the Village Green area.
3. Section 13 -11 -7: variation to permit the Village Green area to have an
electronic reader board /changeable copy /video sign mounted as either a
wall or roof sign measuring 18 -feet by 32 -feet with movies and advertising
sign content.
4. Section 13- 11 -9 -B: variation which would permit the proposed Village
Green video sign to be placed at a suitable height above the roof line of the
supporting wall for movie viewing.
Chairman Davis swore in all those that would testify.
Chuck Fleming, Senior General Manager of the Oakbrook Shopping Center
introduced Danielle Cassel, Counsel with Vedder Price and George Dolson,
Senior Director of Development for General Growth Properties.
Mr. Fleming said that the request is for new pavilions and other common area
improvements. He reviewed some of the history of the Center in order to
provide some prospective as to where they have been and why they are seeking
these improvements. The Center was originally built in 1962 and has been
known synonymously with the Village of Oak Brook. The Shopping Center
has been known for its upscale shopping and fine dining. They feature outdoor
park -like settings, which includes the trees, landscaping, plants, bushes ground
cover and most importantly the seasonal flowers. They are one of the largest
outdoor shopping centers in the country. They are in the top ten when it comes
to sales volume. Their demographics far exceed typical shopping centers in the
Chicagoland area and many other regional areas. Their demographics go over
1.4 million people. It was redeveloped in 1971, when they added Lord and
Taylor. Improvements were made in 1981, 1987 and in 1991. There have been
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renovations to the commons areas in 1991 and 2001, including those they have
been doing over the last couple of years. It has all been done in partnership
with the Village as well as this request. They are finishing their phased
common area renovation project and have installed new hardscape, new
landscaping, new lighting, and new way- finding signage. There are different
water features and fountains and will be in operation 24 hours a day /365 days a
year. They have fire totems, soft seating, new Christmas decor, and have built
a pavilion in the winter it is a place for warming and in the summer it is a place
to sit and cool off and enjoy the park -like atmosphere. They have created a
"Village Green" area. Along with the renovation, they have recaptured and
redeveloped the old Bloomingdale's building, added tenants such as Lululemon,
Tommy Bahama, Hugo Boss and Aritzia, and all opened prior to the holiday
season. They have two new big box users one on the upper and the other on
the lower level will be opening in the spring. Pirch, a home fixture store out of
California and the relocation of the Container store. They have recaptured and
redeveloped the lower level of Niemen Marcus and brought in two high end
steak houses, Perry's Steakhouse and the Old Town Pour House. The
LeMeridien Hotel is under construction and there has been a complete
transformation of the building which is expected to open in the spring.
Pinstripes came in about 1 %2 years ago and provided an entertainment anchor.
Nordstrom and Lord and Taylor have done a complete remodel and Nieman
Marcus will be starting one in 2014 due to their reduced area. Sears has leased
out some of their excess square footage to such tenants as Pottery Barn Kids,
Pottery Barn Teens and West Elm. They have had a very busy few years and
things have changed significantly.
Their goals in terms of this project for 2014 is that they would like to activate
the common areas to engage the customers better, and add amenities that they
consider to be multi - generational experiences. They need to connect better with
the community and are trying to find additional ways to bring and keep
shoppers in the mall longer and to improve and enhance their experience.
Studies say that the longer people are in the shopping center, the more they will
spend and that is what they are trying to do, by transforming the common areas.
The emphasis of what they are trying to do is to bring in four new pavilions and
a digital screen. He reviewed an aerial of the shopping center noting the
common areas. It is owned by General Growth and if the there were a roof over
the center; it would be within that area. It encompasses about 5.92 acres and is
the center's interior.
He reviewed slides of the area and improvements which were contained in the
case file under Page M. He noted that locations of each proposed pavilion,
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which vary in size and shape. Outside each building is a canopy overhang
which provides protection for outdoor seating. They do not intend to build
them all at once. They will build one to see if it is successful. The structures
will be made of glass with a flat roof in order to accommodate the installation
of a canopy. The primary purpose for the pavilions will be used for retail use
and they are hoping to bring in quick food uses, where people can stop, and rest
while shopping. They will be heated in the winter and cooled in the summer.
All utilities will be provided, including fire sprinklers. It is their intent to lease
them, if not they will be converted to amenity areas for shoppers to sit. They
want the pavilions to fit in with the shopping center. In the evenings they want
them to be beacons of light with comfortable outdoor lighting. The Village
Green area is a wide open grass area that they look at as a community area.
They are trying to connect better with the community and to let people and
families bring blankets and let the kids run around and as well as provide an
opportunity for a promotional area for tenants and the mall.
They are requesting approval for an 18 -ft. x 32 -ft. digital sign/screen located at
the corner of the Village Green area and will be a digital screen with multiple
uses. The screen will extend a little higher of the parapet walls of building on
top of the canopy. They are looking at it as an opportunity and using it for
movies in the park, advertising, promotional activity, and for the Village to use
it as advertisement for such things as polo and public service announcements
and to be able to communicate better with the community, so it would have
multiple uses, including advertising to help offset the operational overall cost
and generate income in advertising dollars. One of the concerns they knew of
and that was brought up by staff, was to make sure that when there are movies
in the park to determine where the sound would go. They had an acoustical
analysis with measurements taken directly to the north to the Oakbrook Club
and to the first residential street in Oakbrook Terrace. The study found that the
highest reading to the Oak Brook Club was 53 decibels and 48 to Oakbrook
Terrace. The numbers are reduced when the number of buildings located in
between the areas and the fact that they are not going to be focusing the
speakers in those directions, which will be pointed in a southern slightly east
direction. The felt this was an important aspect since movies will be played
when it is dark and they do not want to infringe upon their neighbors.
This project has been fully vetted out as they have met with Village Staff,
approximately 6 -7 meetings with Bob Kallien, along with meetings with the
Police, Fire and Public Works Department's along with Village Manager Dave
Niemeyer along with some members of the Plan Commission and Zoning
Board. They wanted to hear all of the concerns up front and to work hand in
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hand with the Village. The input has been extremely invaluable a considerable
amount of changes have been made in the project as a result of those comments.
They believe it will be a positive reflection to both the Oakbrook Shopping
Center and to the community.
Chairman Davis noted that a lot of the standards are issues that the applicant
has with the Village and confirmed under oath that Mr. Kallien was satisfied
with the standards and that they had been properly addressed on the pages
marked E of the case file.
Danielle Cassel, Vedder Price, reviewed the specifics of the variations and
waivers. She noted that it was very important to make sure that the project
requested was consistent with the Commercial Areas Revitalization Plan and
believes the project fulfills many of the goals in clustering compatible retails
uses, encourages mixed use, increases sales tax and specifically encouraging
outdoor activities. In terms of public welfare they are confident that the project
would not have negative consequences for any property owners or residents
outside the boundaries of the Oakbrook Center property. It is a very centralized
area and quite buffered by all of the surrounding buildings. At the suggestion
of Bob Kallien they retained acoustical engineers to ensure that the sound
system would not project beyond their boundary. They believe the proposed
uses will encourage people to make trips to the Center that they may not
otherwise make or stay longer. The amenities, soft seating and outdoor dining
are brought to the core of the Center instead of at the perimeter to give people
young and old a place to take a break.
She monitors what is happening nationally and there are efforts by owners of
other regional and smaller malls to make shopping centers multi - purpose
destinations. They not only compete with other malls and downtown areas that
are providing these kinds of amenities they are also competing with the internet.
A lot of brick and mortar retailers and landlords see that by making the
commercial areas a destination and unique place for activities and social
gathering is the one thing that the internet cannot replicate and becomes a
competitive advantage in this new world. They took a lot of time thoughtfully
responding to the standards and are proud that it is believed that they meet
them.
The first waiver is that in the zoning ordinance uses are to be inside not outside.
Although the planned development is very much interior to the mall, there is no
roof, so technically they are outside uses. There will be outside retail areas and
pavilion buildings with retractable walls, and outdoor movies at the Village
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Green. They tried to be specific about the activities and uses would be
outdoors.
The second waiver responds to the list of what are the outside uses in the B -2
District and they called out each component as permitted uses to the degree that
they are either special uses in the B -2 District or are not even mentioned in the
regulations.
The digital screen would not be acceptable if viewed by the public, but in this
case is entirely interior and not visible beyond their property lines. The Village
code Sign Regulations would technically regulate the digital screen only if it
were facing rights of way or common open space. They own the common areas
and are not subject to any covenants and are private open space. The screen is
a very expensive undertaking and showing advertisements when it is not being
used for movies or public announcements, is very important in order for them
to undertake the required investment.
They were happy with the conditions contained in the staff report and suggested
a modification to tighten the second condition regarding alcohol on the
premises, as follows:
Relative to the outdoor dining and seating areas for each of the Pavilions, the
serving of alcohol is not permitted as part of this proposed planned
development. PROPOSED ADDED TEXT FOLLOWS: "Service of
alcohol within any portion of the planned development would require the
issuance of a specific liquor license from the Village for the subject
premises in accordance with Title 1, Chapter 4 of the Village Code. Any
such license approval shall impose such conditions as are necessary to
ensure that the subject portion of the planned development where liquor
is to be served will be sufficiently fenced, monitored and otherwise
controlled to:
a. Prevent customers from removing any liquor from the licensed
premises.
b. Prevent anyone other than customers or employees that the licensed
premises from accessing liquor within the licensed premises."
They will not build pavilions speculatively. The first goal is to bring food and
beverage to the center of the mall. If a food or beverage tenant should leave a
pavilion and create a vacancy, it would not limited the occupancy to another
food and beverage tenant necessarily be replaced by another. All tenants would
function and sign leases like other indoor tenants, typically for 5 -10 years.
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Their anticipation is that elements of the planned development other than the
pavilion buildings would be implemented within a year of approval. The
pavilion buildings would be built as leases are signed. They do have interest
from a couple of potential tenants. They are hopeful that two would be
constructed in 2014. They would like the ordinance to be very clear that
temporary vacancies would not discontinue anyone of the individual elements
or cause the planned development ordinance to lapse, because they would come
and go with the seasons, with tenancy, and as the Center sees what is working
and what is not.
Ms. Cassel said that the images differ slightly on the screen than what is in the
packet. To clarify, she noted that any Macy's property is not part of the planned
development.
Member Bulin questioned how the Macy's development coordinated with the
mall development.
George Dolson responded that they are not doing anything with regards to any
of the Macy's property. They have built all of the improvements seen at the mall
as part of the common area upgrades.
Mr. Dolson noted that they are hopeful to have a couple of the pavilions
constructed in 2014 with the other two in 2015. They anticipate having the
digital screen constructed in 2014 in order to have it opened for the summer
season.
There were no comments from the public.
James Kruger, Police Chief said that one of the concerns they had early on
pertained to the buildings and whether or not there would be any licensed liquor
establishments. The addition to the condition for liquor could not be better
stated than what was proposed and he was satisfied with the revised condition
to control what happens outside the confines of the pavilion. If proper controls
are in place they would be satisfied.
Member Bulin questioned whether the fencing would need to come back for
review.
Ms. Cassel responded that the provisions she looked at in the liquor code in
Section 4 -1 -4, liquor sales, states that "the outdoor area has to be delineated by
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an enclosure and that access to the outdoor area must be through the licensed
premises with no direct entrance to or exit from such area." They could not
have the liquor license issued unless there had been a review to prove that it
was contained in that way.
Director of Community Development Kallien noted that if it were a typical
outdoor dining area it would go through the Plan Commission and Zoning
Board, however, under the planned development it is part of this request, it is
included. All liquor licenses including fencing and layout are reviewed by the
Police Department and Community Development and ultimately approved by
the Village Board, so there are safeguards in place.
Member Bulin said that his concern was that the Village would be too strict and
take away from the open aesthetics concept planned.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that there is a provision in
the planned development regulations that a minor amendment, such as fencing
could be handled that way and would be handled administratively through the
Village Manager. He would review the request and based on Staff input and
concerns raised at this hearing it would meet the overall intent of the
regulations.
Chairman Davis asked for public testimony. All interested parties were notified
of the public hearing.
Director of Community Development Kallien noted that some concerns were
raised today regarding two of the planned pavilions near the Professional
building and the motor court. The Village is very careful and provides adequate
access for the fire trucks, however, the way they were laid out there may be a
potential problem with the fire truck.
Jeffrey Marciniak, Battalion Chief, Fire Department, complimented the plan
and noted that their number one priority is the ingress /egress to service the
patrons of the mall as quickly and safely as possible. In doing so they have
certain designated entry points. As the mall changes and evolves modifications
are needed. They do not have a choice with the Pro Building service. And the
upper level service, which is going through the Pro Building turn around. It is
one of the main access areas into the mall. His only concern was the overhangs
that are useful and aesthetically functional, they may encroach a little too much
into the area with regards to the large ladder trucks and /or engines. Recently
there was an issue with the loading and unloading of merchandise into the area,
which blocked even one of their smallest engines.
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Mr. Fleming understood and said that in the design, they did work off of the
information provided by the Fire Department in regards to the turning radius
requirements for the department's largest vehicles. They will take a look at
whether the one structure extends out too far and would modify it as needed
during construction. They are very diligent and vigilant in keeping the motor
court open, which is an uphill battle sometimes.
Mr. Marciniak noted that they have never had a significant incident.
Mr. Fleming noted that during the final building review, the bollards are
moveable if access is needed.
Member Sheers asked what types of telephone would be available.
Mr. Fleming noted that both would be available, and confirmed that they would
have WiFi.
Member Doyle questioned the signage for the structures.
Mr. Fleming noted that they have not developed the criteria yet, but would be
similar in size and visibility to everything else in the mall.
Member Doyle questioned the digital screen location and noted that it was a
large structure. He had a safety concern regarding the size and and a unit that
does not allow for wind flow and no protection from other buildings.
Mr. Dolson responded that structurally they will be making a lot of
modifications to the building and it was going to take a lot of work. The screen
is an expensive undertaking. There would be modifications to the structure and
they have a plan to do that, which requires reinforcement of the roof above and
below.
Member Doyle understood sound during the movie, but asked if there would be
sound with the advertising in an open area.
Mr. Fleming said that it was their goal to have something that would have a
visual effect.
Member Doyle questioned the content and how it would be regulated,
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Mr. Fleming responded that it would be similar to what they do today. They
have signs throughout the entire shopping center and they sell about 50 on a
regular basis. They have their own standards and recognize that they are family
fiiendly, open to the public and their standards are pretty high in terms of
content. They have had requests but have not approved anything to date that
would be objectionable to the general public. Those are the types of standards
that they have with their tenants.
Ms. Cassel noted that it was a very important concern and they have discussed
it and there are also sign content regulations that the Village enforces, so there
is also that layer of protection as well. They are not seeking any relief from
those so they would be in full force and effect as a back stop to the GGP
(General Growth Properties) standards as well.
Mr. Fleming noted that their tenant standards are more restrictive than the
Village.
Member Doyle questioned the times that the movies would start, knowing that
they need to start when it is dark.
Mr. Fleming noted that there is a fine line between dusk and too late. They will
extend beyond mall hours, but not too late. It will be an LED screen that can be
viewed prior to it being dark. .
Chairman Davis asked if the screen would be in continuous operation.
Mr. Dolson responded that there would be some type of digital content on that
would run in 4 minute cycle, with each cycle with 15 seconds either promoting
the mall, a tenant, or an advertising spot. Later in the day it would promote a
movie, when the mall is open they will be using it.
Mr. Fleming said that they are very excited about this in terms of the
community and they think this gets to some of the goals and objectives of the
community.
Member Bulin thought it was a good idea to have it within the mall main street
and hopefully the residents will take advantage of it and may create the
downtown the Village is missing. He also suggested that bicycle racks be
added. Families could go there by riding bikes.
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Mr. Fleming said that they know they are becoming a point of destination and
they are looking as to where to have locations.
Member Doyle asked how the Village Green would be landscaped to keep
people from crossing diagonally across it.
Mr. Fleming said that they are aware that people would walk across and the
based was constructed to hold up.
There were no other comments by the members of the Commission.
Chairman Davis noted that the standards for a planned development were
substantially addressed as part of the presentation at this public hearing and are
also included in writing on page E of the case file.
Director of Community Development Kallien noted that the way the Planned
Development Standards were put together as part of the regulations, they were
really designed to deal with a virgin site, where there would be utilities and
aesthetic issues. All of the improvements requested are located entirely within
the mall. If there were a roof over the mall, the matter would not be before the
Planned Development Commission. It is a different type of request, but there
are important key elements, such as the screen, which are part of the planned
development request.
Motion by Member Bulin, seconded by Member Sheers to approve the
proposed planned development for the Oakbrook Shopping Center c/o General
Growth Properties to allow the construction of the proposed improvements
within the interior common areas of the Oakbrook Shopping Center as
presented, subject to the following conditions:
1. Development is to be in substantial conformance with the approved plans
for the Oakbrook Shopping Center common area project including the
requested waivers and variations including:
A. Specialty retailing in the Center's interior common area
B. Installation of up to four (4) additional glass pavilion buildings, with
both climate - controlled and outdoor retail, dining, and seating areas,
and
C. Installation of audio and video infrastructure, including a 576 square
foot video sing/digital screen, to be used as an advertising sign and
for community movie nights and other outdoor events within the
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"Village Green" portion of the common area.
2. Relative to the outdoor dining and seating areas for each of the Pavilions,
the serving of alcohol is not permitted as part of this proposed planned
development. Service of alcohol within any portion of the planned
development would require the issuance of a specific liquor license from
the Village for the subject premises in accordance with Title 1, Chapter 4
of the Village Code. Any such license approval shall impose such
conditions as are necessary to ensure that the subject portion of the
planned development where liquor is to be served will be sufficiently
fenced, monitored and otherwise controlled to:
A. Prevent customers from removing liquor from the licensed premises.
B. Prevent anyone other than customers or employees of the licensed
premises from accessing liquor within the licensed premises.
ROLL CALL VOTE
Ayes: 5 — Members Bulin, Doyle, Sheers, Vice Chair Tropinski and Chairman
Davis
Absent: 2 — Members Cappetta and Iyer,
Nays: 0. Motion Carried.
Mrs. Cassel noted for the recorded a special thanks to Bob and Gail because
they could have never gotten to this point without them. They were an absolute
joy to work with. They are so thoughtful, responsive and are treasures.
Mr. Fleming noted that they went through a lot of vetting with the entire staff
and spent a lot of time going through their original ideas asking for some
modifications and Bob and Gail were a big part of it; and the entire staff got
them into a situation where they knew the intent was to put something together
that we would partner with, which is what got them where there were at today.
He thanked the Commission for their time and consideration.
4. OTHER BUSINESS
There was no other business to discuss.
5. ADJOURNMENT:
Motion by Member Doyle, seconded by Chairman Davis to adjourn the
meeting at 8:32 p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried
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ADJOURNMENT
ATTEST:
/s/ Robert L. Kallien, Jr.
Robert Kallien Jr.
Director of Community Development
Secretary
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