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MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 22, 2005 COMMITTEE OF THE
WHOLE MEETING OF THE PRESIDENT AND BOARD OF
TRUSTEES OF THE VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK APPROVED
AS WRITTEN BY VILLAGE BOARD ON OCTOBER 11, 2005.
CALL TO ORDER:
The Committee of the Whole Meeting of the Village Board of Trustees was called to
order by President Quinlan in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler
Government Center at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Village Clerk Linda Gonnella called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: President Kevin M. Quinlan, Trustees Stelios Aktipis, Jeffrey Kennedy,
John Craig, Kathryn Manofsky, Robert Sanford and Asif Yusuf.
ABSENT: None.
IN ATTENDANCE: Richard B. Boehm, Village Manager; Darrell J. Langlois, Finance
Director; Michael J. Meranda, Public Works Director; Jeffrey P.
Moline, Assistant Village Manager and Nelson Patras, Interim
Bath & Tennis Club Manager.
BEAUTIFICATION:
Village Manager Boehm reminded the Board that in March of this year they had
authorized an RFQ to be issued for a Village -wide Beautification Project in which in
April three submittal were received and then reviewed by Richard B. Boehm, Village
Manager; Michael J. Meranda, Public Works Director and Robert L. Kallien, Jr.,.
Director of Community Development.
Presentation by Hitchcock Design Group
Mr. Rick Hitchcock summarized the interview that he had with Village staff in June.
He indicated that Creating Better Places was a trademark of their firm that they felt was
extremely important. Their philosophy was not just creating prettier places, but making
places that are genuinely better to ' work, live, play, shop and dine. He added that the
firm was celebrating their 25th anniversary.
He believed that the reason the Board was pursuing this project was that this community
was the place that everybody looked to set the standards as it developed. But since that
time, growth has happened everywhere else while Oak Brook matured, as much of the
infrastructure is thirty years old. Development patterns have changed and he believes
the Board is attempting to decide whether to plant a few plantings to make it a little
prettier or to do something that makes a statement about the community.
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Mr. Hitchcock presented his company's approach to taking on a project of this nature as
they have worked with many municipalities. They believe that there are five big pieces
to their approach: understanding the issues, recognizing the opportunities, managing the
process along with the budget and staying on schedule.
He began by asking what the Board felt was wrong although he felt there was not a lot
wrong. He indicated that they had worked in many communities that had far bigger
problems than Oak Brook but he recognized that, as he was growing up, he looked at
Oak Brook as a shopping center not a village. He added that there were fabulous
homes, great corporate icons and there was always an aura about the community. He
suggested as a result of how it was developed, there was not a traditional downtown or
town square. Although there are public parks and recreation fields that have led to an
abundance of open space in the community, it has made it different than traditional
public space in downtown areas. He questioned what corporate citizens look at as a
center place in Oak Brook if there is one. He suggested that there was an issue of scale
even though there are fabulous bicycle trails, great walking trails but the reality is most
of what is seen of Oak Brook is seen from the windshield of a car.
He indicated that there were important issues about ownership such as the distinction
between public and private places but ownership also needs to be explored in terms of
this initiative. He has explored the reasons of this initiative and ownership distinction
between capital and maintenance improvements. He added that maintenance matters
and that there is a maintenance price tag that goes along with a project of this nature.
He suggested that projects begin because of an opportunity window, such as a
construction project, major infrastructure project, new development or a change in
leadership. It is important to go with the momentum so that once there is an idea it is
nurtured, get it going and maintain a schedule.
Mr. Hitchcock pointed out that another critical piece of the approach was building
consensus as to whether there is a need and how is it perceived by the Board, the
corporate community and residents in the community. He added that the objectives
need to be determined such as is the goal to make the community a showplace, to keep
it looking good or do you compare it to other communities and how they look. He
added that building consensus on concepts is something that his firm does particularly
well. They listen carefully to what their clients and the community is trying to tell
them. They blend all of those issues together and discover what opportunities there are
to do something that is terrific and meet everyone's objectives including managing the
budget, etc.
He offered that there are a number of opportunities. He described an entry into the
Village off of the Tri -State that indicates there are areas that may deserve a different
kind of look. He offered there are a number of places that offer interesting opportunities
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to create an image such as gateways, intersections, districts, easements, ROWs and
medians. He indicated that there were locations that offered unusual situations to set the
character.
Mr. Hitchcock offered ideas for landscaping, sign graphics, lighting, sidewalks, paths,
storm water management, bridges, sculpture, enhanced maintenance and rehabilitation.
He also offered that there were many products that could be used to improve existing
buildings, treatments that would unify sign graphics and make the area hospitable to
pedestrian traffic.
Mr. Hitchcock went on to describe how they might manage the process. During phase
one his company would look at what is going on with each of the site pieces, what is
happening with the regulatory information, with preferences from the community,
corporations, different users and owners of property. They could host community -wide
workshops to bring people together to show them images, existing site conditions and
attempt to gauge what areas of the community are beloved and which areas need to be
improved. They would gather the information and develop those ideas with community
leaders to work out priorities that need the greatest attention.
He went on to explain that once all the planning work is done the decisions need to be
made as to what are the priority pieces that can be done right away that would have the
largest impact, the biggest bang for the buck and get them designed and help get them
constructed.
He added that part of the management is managing the budget. There are several pieces
that need to be discussed such as sources of money including the opportunity for grant
money that would need to be pursued quickly. Timing is important as the new
Transportation Act projects are being financed and Hitchcock Designs has many tools
and data to rely on this. In addition, his company has relationships with contractors and
professionals in order to receive up -to -date information on costs.
He asked that the Board remember above all else, that his company respects Oak Brook
and the Village's resources. They have pride and authorship in their work but they also
recognize, when it is time to move off an issue and make sure that they are doing the
right thing for their client.
Mr. Hitchcock offered a hypothetical schedule going through the phases with a planting
date of next fall. He described the resources of their company. They are celebrating
their 25th anniversary with two locations and fifty people creating better places. He
described that they have five market center teams in urban design, real estate
development, education, health services and park and recreation. He added that he
would lead the urban design team which would be the team for this project. He
emphasized that they work with municipalities to develop streetscapes, river fronts,
downtown redevelopment and shopping center site redevelopment. He added that the
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3. project would be run by senior leadership with vested interests. He went on to say they
have great professional relationships so that if the project needs engineering,
architecture, graphics, etc. they could bring those professionals into the mix. He
emphasized their clients and many comparable communities that they have worked with
including Naperville, Northbrook, Skokie, Geneva, Champaign and Wilmette.
President Quinlan asked if Mr. Hitchcock was prepared to provide a price for the
project. Village Manager Boehm responded that the reason for the presentation was to
have a consensus from the Board as to whether staff was moving in the right direction.
Mr. Hitchcock also responded that it was a fair question and he recommended a three
phase process. The first phase is discovery, with a reasonable and modest fee, to
determine what the Board would want to do. When that is determined, they would
quote lump sum fees for segments of the project.
Discussion ensued as to how the revitalization project and the beautification project
could work together.
Trustee Manofsky asked whether they would do the prioritization or the focus groups
prioritize the wants, needs and desires of the community. Mr. Hitchcock responded that
his company would listen to the community, rank what is suggested but that it
ultimately becomes the role of the elected leadership to sort through he real priorities
and where the biggest investment in the community is needed.
Trustee Manofsky offered that this project had been intended as a tree replacement
project. Mr. Hitchcock responded that during initial discussions that had been the focus
along with some median enhancements. However he suggested that as one begins to
look at the project, one begins to see opportunities community -wide and determine
where are the important priorities and what needs attention. Trustee Manofsky
expressed her feeling that the community needs to have a common feel.
Discussion ensued relative to how the project became expanded beyond just a tree
replacement project and the funding that has been budgeted for the project. Village
Manager Boehm responded that staff was looking for input from the Board and
residents as to how the project should proceed. He added that there have been
opportunities that the commercial sector has offered to add gateway enhancements in
whatever fashion the Board would like to see.
Trustees Sanford and Yusuf commented that this was a good enhancement to the
Village.
4. DISCUSSION OF SPORTS CORE FOOD & BEVERAGE OPERATIONS:
Village Manager Boehm explained that Trustee Manofsky had asked for this item to be
placed on the agenda for discussion and that she had information to share with the
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Trustee Manofsky thanked Finance Director Langlois for providing the Sports Core
restaurant profit and loss statement which she had asked for with very short notice. She
distributed the statement to the Board. She commented that this statement provided a
recap of the whole Sports Core operation since 1996. She explained that what prompted
this review was the June 30 statement the Board had received and she had budget and
revenue questions as a result.
She interpreted the information to the extent that the Village was spending about
$500,000 and losing $100,000 in the restaurant portion of the Sports Core. She
expressed frustration with this and began discussions about the issue with other Trustees
and determined that the Village needed a mission statement in relation to this operation.
Trustee Manofsky recounted that historically the attitude had been to consider the
Sports Core as a whole and as long as the grand total line was positive that this was
good. She stated that she does not share that philosophy and felt that it was time to have
a change in attitude rather than allowing the restaurant to keep losing money, the
Village needed to pull together for the common good to at least bring it close to break
even. She reviewed the marketing plan that the previous Board had directed and
questioned how much money the Village was willing to lose to provide civic events
with small number of guests that probably runs at a loss. She asked if there was a dollar
amount available that provides a break even amount for small groups. President
Quinlan responded that the break even cost for small groups was $19.28 per person.
Trustee Manofsky felt that over the long run it was costing the Village money to provide
for these groups.
She stated that this was a new era and that the philosophy should be changed by
providing a minimum requirement for opening the facility for civic groups. She set
forth that the Village should (a) define the purpose of this restaurant; (b) provide a
mission statement and (c) discuss how much the Board was willing to lose. She realized
that this was an amenity that residents have enjoyed and that staff has utilized as a
meeting place but she felt that it was time for a change.
President Quinlan responded that if Village departments or related organizations use the
facility, they are not funded by the Sports Core but out of the budgets of those
departments or the organizations that use the facility.
Trustee Sanford reported that he had little knowledge of the facility but when this topic
was to be discussed, he visited the facility and spent time with Bath & Tennis Club
Manager Nelson Patras. He expressed that he has similar concerns that Trustee
Manofsky had and felt that the Board needed to optimize the income of that facility and
keep it as viable an operation as possible. He added that he was amazed that there had
been over 230 events with over half of them being civic events which he did not believe
many of them were break even events. He noticed several things that the Board should
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3. be reviewing one of which is that the actual number of events is short of budget. He felt
that an issue that discourages use of the facility for weddings, banquet type functions,
etc. is that prospective clients could not be sure of the future of the facility. He felt that
the Board must make it clear that Bath & Tennis Club will go forward as a viable
operation. He also was surprised that the advertising budget was not being utilized
because of the indecisiveness that the direction the Board was planning to take. He felt
that it would be helpful to have staff put together how they felt the operation should be
run and have the Board refine it. He emphasized it was important to make the decision
that it was going to remain open and that the Village was planning to go forward with
the operation and make everyone aware of it.
Trustee Aktipis commented that over the years this same discussion has taken place. He
commented that there have been attempts, some of them very successful, to improve the
operation however, it appears to be a perennial problem and he feels that there has been
enough discussion. He suggested it is time to move forward to take whatever steps are
necessary to make the operation successful.
Trustee Yusuf felt that the membership campaign went well although revenue did not
increase; the facility served the needs of more residents. If the facility is unable to make
money, at least the Village is providing a service that is widely used in regard to
swimming and tennis. He suggested that he had a few ideas to improve the restaurant
operation but felt that Bath & Tennis Club Manager Patras should come up with the
game plan on how to go forward and make a commitment to booking in the long run.
He agreed that functions should be charged at the real incremental costs. He felt that
cost cutting in the facility had been very successful.
Trustee Kennedy commented that previous Trustees had said most of the things that
were on his mind. He agreed that a mission statement was needed and he recognized
that there had been much discussion over the years as to whether it should be considered
an amenity without concern about breaking even or whether it should be an enterprise
stand alone operation. He felt it needed a mission statement so that staff would know
that the Board was committed to a particular course and would follow it. He stated that
personally he felt it was a very valuable asset to the community and felt that it is the
only thing in town that brings the community together. He cited that there is no
downtown or central focus to the Village and this comes as close to this as possible. He
offered that this is where the Village has its functions such as civic associations and
homeowners' association meetings and police liaison meetings. He feels that it is the
social center of the Village that is no where else in the Village. In that sense he believed
that it was an amenity that the Village government could use and that homeowners'
associations may use. He does believe that the Village should strive to make it break
even but be prepared to regard a certain number of dollars per year as an appropriate
subsidy to maintain it as an amenity to the Village. He did provide a number, he was
not sure what the number should be, but he did not agree that it entirely needed to be a
break even operation. He would be willing to accept some subsidy to preserve it as the
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4. community center.
Trustee Craig, Board liaison to the Sports Core, asserted that the food business in itself
was a very difficult area to make money. He felt that the present staff had done an
admirable job and suggested enhancements were needed to draw the large banquet
events such as weddings, etc. He also agreed that advertising was an integral part of
drawing business.
President Quinlan again commended Bath & Tennis Club Manager Patras for his work
and summarized that the Board was providing an endorsement to continue with the
belief that it could be profitable and that the Board was willing to take some loss. He
suggested that Manager Patras move forward with a marketing plan and budget to bring
to the Board.
Trustee Manofsky added that, in her opinion, the facility should close during the months
of January, February and March. She felt this would be a way to preserve resources and
save money. She suggested that the few civic groups that used the facility in those
months could contact the Park District and the Library for their meetings. Trustee
Manofsky asked what became of the plans that had been presented to the previous
Board. Manager Patras responded that the Board did not respond to the ideas but that
the menu changes and pricing had been implemented. He added that another segment of
the plan was to rename the facility. Trustee Manofsky suggested that the current Board
read all of the materials and review at it again.
President Quinlan suggested that ideas and suggestions and mission statement ideas be
processed through Trustee Craig, the liaison to the Bath & Tennis Club, in order to work
with staff to prepare an agenda presentation.
Trustee Manofsky asked for this to be brought back to the Board within the next four
weeks. President Quinlan suggested that may be too soon but that it would move
forward.
Trustee Aktipis suggested that the mission statement should not include the picture as
far as the profitability or lack of profitability of the Club in a way that will obscure how
the Club operates. He felt that as a Board they could set aside a budget that could be
used to supplement affairs as the Board chose.
President Quinlan expressed concern that if a specific amount was set aside and the
need was greater than that amount, how would it be determined who receives the
supplement.
Trustee Manofsky emphasized her conviction that accepting a loss for civic groups is
wrong.
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4. Discussion ensued with ideas being expressed as to how to accommodate civic groups.
President Quinlan summarized that the challenge was given to Bath & Tennis Club
Manager Patras to develop a marketing plan including ideas for pricing, name change,
etc.
Trustee Sanford wanted to reiterate for the viewing public that the discussion about the
Bath & Tennis Club is of refining it, improving the facility but that it is open for
business and will be around for awhile.
5. ADJOURNMENT:
Motion by Trustee Craig, seconded by Trustee Kennedy; to adjourn the Committee -of-
the -Whole Meeting at 9:00 p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
s /Linda K. Gonnella
Linda K. Gonnella, CMC
Village Clerk
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