Minutes - 07/11/2016 - Plan Commission/ VIL`LACL• QF
MINUTES OF THE JULY 11, 2016
OAK BR , K REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLAN COMMISSION OF THE
VILLAGE OF OAK.BROOK
APPROVED AS WRITTEN ON AUGUST 15, 2016
1. CALL TO ORDER: CALL TO ORDER
The Meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairwoman Tropinski
in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler Government Center at 7:08 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL: ROLL CALL
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairwoman Marcia Tropinski, Members Thomas Doyle, Raju Iyer,
Raj Lal (arrived 7:24 p.m.), Simon Sheers and Kenneth Wilczak
ABSENT: Member Naveen Jain
IN ATTENDANCE: Director of Community Development Robert Kallien Jr.,
Planning Technician Gail Polanek and Planner Rebecca Von Drasek
3. NEW BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS
A. ZONING CONSULTANTS, TESKA ASSOCIATES — COMPREHENSIVE ZONING
REVIEW OF THE VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK ZONING ORDINANCE
CONSULTANTS, -
REVIEW ZONING
ORDINANCE
Director of Community Development Kallien provided a brief overview of the
zoning ordinance update.
Mr. Savoy emphasized that the Zoning Ordinance update was creating a
Performance Based Approach to the Ordinance. Mr. Savoy began his presentation
responding to written review comments submitted by Commissioner Doyle
(provided in Italics).
Comment 1) Chapter 7: Business and Institutional Districts Establishment of
Commercial Districts, B2 — Consider changing "big box" to "department stores ",
which is typical of the Oakbrook Shopping Center, and others. "Big box" generally
is used for Costco, Sam's Club, Target and Kmart Superstores, etc., which are
typically located in B3 type districts.
Mr. Savoy explained that the industry standard uses the term "big box "; he noted
that he might refer to it differently but argued that "big box" in this instance was
appropriate.
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Comment 2) "Approved by the Director of Development Services" There had been
some discussion about this. As it is now worded, the permitting power is in the
hands of an individual. The individual may be sick or on vacation; or the position is
temporarily unfilled. Would "Approved by the Office of... " work better?
Mr. Savoy agreed that the language could read, "Approved by the Office of
Development Services ".
Comment 3) In 13 -7 -3 B -6 b., why is there this exception to the Director of
Development Services for approval? In additional standards, perhaps an indication
that the building owner /manager's permission has been approved and must be
provided in writing. Also, it might be advisable to have different "Hours of
Operation "for the two different locations as described in 6a and 6 b.
Mr. Savoy noted that Comment Five also related to Food Trucks and suggested that
the Commission have a further discussion about the issue.
Comment 4) Would like an explanation of rationale for "Structural Height" in the
various districts. He questioned why there was a difference, between BI and B3
districts.
Mr. Savoy agreed that the reversing the heights in the BI and B3 districts was
appropriate.
Comment 5) Under "Mobile Food Vending (Food Trucks): unless the intention is
that only restaurants in the Village can operate Food Trucks, the following
modification might be considered "be owned and operated (1) by the owner or (2)
by the agent of a licensed food establishment in the Village". Even this wording
would preclude a company with a fleet of Food Trucks from operating in the
Village.
Comment 6) A minor thing. Retail Store reads so that a 100,000 square foot store is
not included. It should read something like less than "100,000 square feet" and
"100, 000 square feet or more ". "Above" and "Below" are related to height.
Mr. Savoy accepted this suggestion.
Comment 7) More seriously, under Public /Institutional Land Uses — the term
"Religious Institutions" applies to structures like convents, seminaries and a
number of other types. Perhaps the term "Places of Worship". which is more
restrictive, would be more appropriate. In the interest of inclusivity, I would
recommend including "Mosques" among the examples.
Mr. Savoy disagreed that convents and seminaries were the same type of land use as
churches and temples because people reside in the former.
Member Doyle noted the ambiguity in the terms convents /seminaries but argues that
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they were in his opinion examples of institutional land uses.
Mr. Savoy agreed to add "mosque" in the listed examples of Religious Institutions
within the Land Use table. He thanked Member Doyle for the comments and
encouraged the Commissioners to forward comments or suggestions in the future.
Director of Community Development Kallien requested that with any standards,
within the text, where graphics could be included as the visual cues are often more
helpful than text.
Chairwoman Tropinski suggested the Commission return to the discussion of the
Food Truck requirements.
Member Sheers inquired if the hours needed to be all day. He observed that if a
truck was not making sales that it would probably move on.
Member Iyer offered that he had seen the trucks in other parts of the country and did
not object to them outright. He agreed that hours of operation from 7 am to 5 pm
would be acceptable.
Member Wilczak asserted that the text should limit the Food Trucks from being
within 500 feet of a brick and mortar restaurant.
Member Lal questioned what value Food Trucks would bring to the Village, he
noted that he had seen examples of them in Carmel, Indiana. He added that
although the existing conditions are not carved in stone he emphasized the need to
keep with the vision and mission of the community.
Member Doyle stated that he felt the Food Trucks requirements should be left in the
Zoning Ordinance update and allows the trucks to operate within the community.
Chairwoman Tropinski reported that she had done an informal survey of individuals
working within the community and found that there was need and desire for such a
service.
Director of Community Development Kallien reminded the Commission that the
current Zoning Ordinance does not allow for Food Trucks.
Mr. Savoy reviewed with the Commission the outdoor storage standards and bulk
setback requirements. He informed the Commission that the FAR standards had
been removed, he noted that if a development met the height and setback
requirements that the Floor Area Ratio was irrelevant.
Director of Community Development Kallien asked the Commission to consider and
respond to the height restrictions within some of the commercial districts.
Chairwoman Tropinski asserted that allowing taller structures in some Districts
would be appropriate.
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Member Doyle did not object to taller structures provided adequate landscaping and
setbacks could be met to prevent structures from dominating an area.
Director of Community Development Kallien observed that in some municipal
codes "bonuses" are offered when developers will consider certain allowances like
additional open space or parking that then allows the development to exceed build
standards. He added that this type of flexibility might only be appropriate in 03,
ORA2, and B2 Districts; more or less areas adjacent to the mall, where there are
already buildings of considerable height.
Member Lal stated that he did not object to office buildings when they are grouped
in an area.
The Commissioners briefly discussed offering flexibility for structure height for
applicants as part of a building permit.
Mr. Savoy offered to draft some height bonus language for the Commission's
consideration.
Jason Engberg, Teska Associates, reviewed the Land Use Tables as revised. The
Commissioners reviewed the proposed changes. Mr. Savoy observed that it was a
best management practice to avoid over regulating business development. Director
of Community Development Kallien suggested that Teska also draft a list of
prohibited uses to include within the Land Use Tables.
Mr. Savoy highlighted a proposed revision to allow outdoor dining by permit rather
than require existing restaurants to seek a Special Use to place a few tables outside
of their buildings. The Commissioners agreed.
Member Doyle observed that the Commission had met too many times regarding
outdoor dining for restaurants. He questioned in what district it could be a permitted
use for outdoor dining with the specifications conditions attached to the Code. He
added that the way it is done now is crazy. Instead of just saying that there are
certain things that one needs to do in order to be allowed approval for outdoor
dining. The idea of drive -thru versus no drive -thru was based on one event, where
there is a lot of time spent. The broader view would be to get something out of the
Commission and become part of a regulated process.
Director of Community Development Kallien agreed. He noted that Roti and
Chipotle in order to be allowed to have four tables located outside their restaurant
for outdoor dining is the same process used for Christ Church to add a huge facility
plan for its property. He noted that one was not equal to the other, but the process is
exactly the same. He encouraged creating great standards and in order to apply for
an outdoor dining permit the standards must be met and would then not need to
come through the boards.
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Mr. Savoy said that it sounded as if there were standards that had been used.
Chairwoman Tropinski said that the same principle may apply to banks and financial
facilities requesting a drive -thru, which have also been through the Plan
Commission numerous times.
Mr. Savoy and Mr. Engberg agreed that certain conditions could be required
especially in regards to stacking requirements, coverings, and awnings.
Director of Community Development Kallien agreed with the drive -thru providing
that the drive -thru adjacent to or within a specified distance from a residence district
should be required to go through the special use process. At that point, screening,
light, sounds coming through a speaker box, etc., that should be reviewed through
the special use process. He noted that the drive -thru for the Hyatt Hotel was an issue
for the neighboring residential community.
Mr. Savoy suggested the same parameter be set for outdoor dining adjacent to
residential areas.
There was a brief discussion in regards to mixed use in the 0-4 District.
Mr. Engberg responded that a mixed -use development in the 0-4 District could be a
mix of any type of land use, subject to the Planned Development Regulations. While
it could be a commercial use with apartments on top, it could also be a research
facility and hotel.
Mr. Savoy responded that the evolution of 0-4 has been more of a mixed -use
district. The proposed change was trying to reflect the history of the district and not
introducing a new idea.
Chairwoman Tropinski questioned the topics for review at the next meeting.
Mr. Savoy responded that Planned Developments have modest changes, along with
changes to telecommunication towers and other items.
Chairwoman Tropinski asked for an agenda prior to the meeting.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that the goal would be to have the
material prior to the meeting so that they can be talked about at the meeting.
There was a brief discussion regarding delivery of the content when the quorum call
is made along with providing a zoning map for the members to use.
Member Doyle motioned, seconded by Member Iyer to continue the zoning
ordinance updated review to August 15, 2016. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
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4. OTHER BUSINESS
Director of Community Development Kallien reviewed possible new case in regards
to overflow parking from another town into Oak Brook.
5. PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments were made from the public.
6. ADJOURNMENT:
Motion by Member Iyer, seconded by Member Doyle to adjourn the meeting at 8:35
p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
/s/ Robert L. Kallien Jr.
Robert Kallien, Director of Community Development
Secretary
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