Minutes - 01/17/2005 - Plan CommissionMINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17, 2005 REGULAR
MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK APPROVED AS WRITTEN
ON FEBRUARY 21, 2005.
1. CALL TO ORDER:
The Regular Meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairwoman
Payovich in the West Wing Training Room of the Butler Government Center at
7:30 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL:
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairwoman Barbara Payovich, Members David Braune, Surendra
Goel, Jeffrey Bulin, Marcia Tropinski and Gerald Wolin.
ABSENT: Member Paul Adrian
IN ATTENDANCE: Robert L. Kallien, Director of Community Development and
Dale L. Durfey, Village Engineer.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
REGULAR PLAN COMMISSION MEETING OF DECEMBER 13, 2004
Motion by Member Goel, seconded by Member Bulin, to approve the minutes of
the December 13, 2004 Regular Plan Commission meeting as amended and waive
the full reading thereof. VOICE VOTE: Motion Carried
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
MINUTES
4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS UNFINISHED
BUSINESS
There was no unfinished business.
5. NEW BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS
5. A. OAK BROOK PROMENADE — 3001, 3003 AND 3121 BUTTERFIELD OAK BROOK
PROMENADE -
ROAD (SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BUTTERFIELD ROAD AND 3001, 3003 AND 3121
MEYERS ROAD) — TITLE 13 OF THE VILLAGE CODE — ZONING BUTTERFIELD RD)
- MAP AMEND,
ORDINANCE — MAP AMENDMENT, TEXT AMENDMENTS AND TEXT AMEND,
SPECIAL USES. TITLE 14 OF THE VILLAGE CODE — SUBDIVISION AND SPECIAL USES
- FINAL PLAT OF
REGULATIONS — FINAL PLAT OF CONSOLIDATION CONSOLIDATION
Director of Community Development Kallien reviewed the request. It is an 18.2
acre site with consisting of multiple parcels which is presently improved with 3
office buildings. The goal is to combine the parcels into one lot; rezone the
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property to B -1; demolish the buildings, subject to text amendments, variations and
special use approval to build an 180,000 square foot retail center. It is something
that has been talked about for a number of years to help spur redevelopment of the
Butterfield /22nd Street corridor. This would be a good start especially since it is on
the far end of town. A lot of good things can happen in the middle if it happens
that way. They have had many meetings and discussions with the developer and
they have already addressed many of the staff's previous issues and concerns.
However, there are some things that need to be talked about in order to fine -tune
the project, but all in all it is a quality project and good for Oak Brook.
Mary Riordan, Attorney for the applicant introduced the developer of the project
Dennis Hiffman, of NAI Hiffman based in Oakbrook Terrace. Also from NAI
Hiffman were Ryan Murphy and Ken Erickson. They are acting as agent for the
property owner who is St. Paul Properties, which is located in St. Paul, Minnesota.
She introduced the development team who are part of this project that would be
speaking at the hearing. Henry Klover, Klover Architects of Kansas City,
Missouri; Phil Wolf and Nick Smith, Manhard Engineering; Wendy Schulenberg,
Landscape Architect, Daniel Weinback & Partners and Don O'Hara, Traffic
Engineer, KLOA.
Ms. Riordan provided an overview of the project. The property has three existing
office buildings and is on the southwest corner of Meyer and Butterfield Road. The
property has been zoned ORA -1 since 1976 and are 30% occupied, which is a 70%
vacancy rate. In the office market the vacancy rate in Oak Brook, Oakbrook
Terrace, Downers Grove and Lombard is 30 %, so the occupancy rate for this site is
well below the average. Given the market and the state of the properties, which are
well maintained but are lacking in the amenities that tenants are looking for, it is
very unlikely that these buildings are going to be leased anytime soon. They have
property that is vacant and is generating no tax to the Village.
The property is located on the far western edge of town. Across Meyers Road to
the east is the Inland building, which is also zoned ORA -1; immediately to the west
is a ComEd substation, also zoned ORA -1. To the south the property is bounded
by the tollway and to the south of that is a residential area. Immediately north of
the property is the Village of Lombard and the development to the north is zoned
B -3 planned development (according to the Lombard zoning map), which is the
Fountain Square development with restaurants and retail. To the west is the
Yorktown Shopping Center and down farther to the east is the Oakbrook Center.
They are proposing that the buildings be demolished; that the whole property be
redeveloped with 180,000 - 190,000 feet of office, retail and sit down restaurants.
Broken down that would be about 20,000 feet of office, 130,000 feet of retail and
about 30,000 feet of high end sit down restaurants.
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The proposed zoning district is B -1, which they believe is the most appropriate
zoning district for the project they are proposing. The B -2 district is for the
regional shopping center. The B -3 District has too many uses that they would not
want to see on the project and the Village probably would not like to see them there
either. They concluded that B -1 would be the most appropriate zoning for the
proposed project and would fit in most with retail trends on Butterfield and 22nd
Street. It is consistent with the Fountain Square property to the north. There is also
a proposed development to the west and they are somewhat in competition with the
developers to the west for tenants and users. The kinds of tenants they are talking
about are high -end lifestyle center users. Another development is proposed down
the street so these tenants are looking between the two projects to see which one is
more desirable. The proposed B -1 district is consistent with surrounding land uses.
The proposed development will not have any deleterious impact on the surrounding
properties. They think if there is going to be any impact it will be a positive one.
It is a high -end project and the density they are looking at is less than that it could
be if developed under ORA -1 as far as height and bulk. They have tried to develop
something with a lot of public amenities. There is a lot of open space that is
friendly to pedestrians and shoppers to come and spend some time and money to
eat and shop. They are proud of what they have come up with.
They are anticipating when the project is fully built out they will generate
approximately one million dollars in sales tax. The project will not have any
impact on the taxing districts. They are not creating any new school children. The
only services will be those that are now being provided. There will be significant
sales tax to the village.
They have several petitions. They are seeking a map amendment from ORA -1 to
B -1. They are also seeking several variances, text amendments, special use and a
final plat of consolidation. They have 5 separate parcels, one of which is not in the
village; it is what they refer to as the tollway parcel and is zoned R -2 in DuPage
County. As part of this process they are going to prepare an annexation petition to
annex the property into the village. It will also be part of their map amendment,
which they understand will be subject to the approval of the annexation. There are
a lot of restrictions, constriction and physical problems with this property. Those
factors had a lot to do with driving the design and development of the property.
The project team presented the proposed project
Phil Wolf, Manhard Engineering
Since the project began they have been working hand and hand with Village
Engineer Dale Durfey to assure they were in compliance with the Village
Stormwater Ordinance. The existing buildings were permitted back in 1976. There
was an existing culvert that came through the property and was released to a creek
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and then discharged back into a six -foot diameter culvert going back underneath
Meyers Road. As part of the original development some storage had to be provided
for detention that was at the time determined to be 4 -acre feet and some additional
detention had to be provided for fill that was going on in the floodplain. Along the
front of Butterfield Road where the culvert comes in there are some fairly large
depressions that also store stormwater along with the pond itself. In coming up
with the proposed plan to redevelop this property they had the constraints of the
existing pond. Approximately 3 acres of flood plain are on the site and they had to
be in compliance with the new ordinance. They had some areas they were trying to
do some fill, but in trying to actually utilize those areas because of the depth of
them for even a small area of trying to reclaim out of floodplain, to gain a half of an
acre you would need to provide six times that in volume someplace else on the site,
which is pretty limited with the pond being utilized and proposed with the new
structures and easements running along the southern parts there is not a lot of area
to add new volume. They came up with a method whereby the water in the pond
gets dropped to provide some additional storage. The bottom of the pond gets
elongated out and the net result is that they could be in compliance with the
ordinance for the small amount of fill they are placing in flood plain and the new
volume that they would need to be in compliance with today's ordinance above and
beyond what was required in 1976.
They have verified the existing sanitary on the site with the Hinsdale Sanitary
District to provide for the increased need for sanitary and the capacity is there.
They have worked with Village Engineer Durfey relating to the utilities and some
of the revisions to the water system, which would be necessary to ensure that they
would meet the needs and requirements of the Village.
Don O'Hara, principal with KLOA Traffic Consultants
He said that they were retained by the applicant to do the traffic study, which is on
tab 27 of the case file. He highlighted some of the important aspects of the traffic
planning for the site. They studied Butterfield Road and Meyers Road. He said
that everyone knows that the traffic on Butterfield Road is not good. However,
given the existing land use on the subject site they are already generating some
traffic. 30% (as stated earlier) of the site is leased, 70% is not. They counted each
of the driveways as well as the intersection and reduced the volumes on the
roadways to make up for the 30% existing on the site; then they went and generated
traffic for the subject site relative to Butterfield Road and Meyers Road. They
evaluated the intersection and the development would be adding less than a second
of delay on the system. There are really not any improvements that are necessary
given the roadway configuration now; it is still not going to be good on Butterfield
Road at certain times. However, they are not really putting a large impact on the
road system. One of the important aspects is the access to the facility. They have
three existing buildings on the site and there are also three existing driveways and
the locations of the current driveways do not follow the ordinance as it is today.
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The plan is that the right in right out of the subject site, which is to the west, will
remain as is and the signalized intersection that is aligned with the shopping center
across the street will remain as is. There is one minor modification proposed that
they have reviewed with the Illinois Department of Transportation (IDOT) about
and which they (IDOT) are not opposed to moving the driveway to the west
slightly for safety reasons so that it would be a simple right turn in and would be by
the facilities. From the traffic and safety standpoint it made sense, however it does
not meet the Village requirement of excess of 400 feet spacing between driveways.
An important aspect of this is that Butterfield is IDOT's road and they do not have
a problem with the proposal and have given them preliminary approval subject to
final engineering. On the site they have an existing road that goes straight through
the existing facility that is remaining for the most part. It is 24 feet wide and the
current Village ordinance requires 27 feet under this type of land use. It is
currently 24 feet and it is their firm belief that 24 feet is more than adequate to have
two -way traffic going through the facility. Obviously the majority of the parking is
down to the rear so they are going to have traffic that will be moving southerly and
northerly in a regular fashion. They are planning to have internal traffic control so
that they do not have a speedway. They will be in total compliance with the
parking regulations.
The next issue is the parking garage that is currently located underneath the site.
The parking that is below grade is intended for office parking and valet service that
will be controlled. It will not be something regularly opened to the patrons. It is
their feeling, given the onsite circulation it is a very good plan and will work under
the new urban conditions for this type of land use.
Ms. Riordan clarified that the controlled access to the underground parking would
be by keycard or by valet. The plan is to use it for valet and employee parking only
and there will always be a control over who accesses it. They do not have the
concern they would have had in regards to safety if it were used as an open garage.
Henry Klover, Klover Architects
He said that he is a lifestyle center architect and has worked on six lifestyle centers
across the country.
Member Wolin asked for a definition of "lifestyle center."
Mr. Klover responded that a lifestyle center is a term that was coined by Poag &
McEwen, who developed the Deer Park Town Center. Everyone was going to
malls at the time. The original intent was to create an environment that was to
acknowledge the lifestyles of the people of today. People go out for entertainment,
to restaurants, there is retail and an environment that is a gathering place that you
create. Statistically, there was a study done by the ICSC International Council of
Shopping Centers and lifestyle centers are designed to bring people in for one
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activity such as going to dinner and then to stay and browse the shops, stop for ice
cream or coffee, etc. It is one of the reasons why the center looks the way it does.
He reviewed the present layout and structure of the existing site. One of the first
thoughts on the proposed layout was to try to use the underground systems. There
were other considerations such as the tollway and the overhead power lines and
easements. There is also the ComEd substation directly west of the site. One
advantage they had was the detention basin. It was an attractive element to deal
with so they chose to accentuate it by having outdoor patios and restaurants, which
is a natural for that area. They were going to use the buildings to shield the
unattractive parts and to focus the center upon itself with a central element in the
center.
One of the considerations of the site was to have nice smooth circulations paths and
there is a wide island through the middle that has decorative plantings and is
problematic in itself because it sits on top of the parking deck. The desire was to
set up really strong circulation with wide pedestrian areas some are as wide as 36-
feet deep; there are planters and seating walls as well as bollards to try to protect
the pedestrians as they come around. In a lifestyle center a lot of attention is paid
to the materials and the surfaces that people walk on. They created areas where
there are seating nodes that are protected by green areas and plantings. There are
different textured materials such as stone, colored concrete and a sandblast texture
to the materials. They try to create a pattern that actually varies as you go through
the center. Part of the idea when you develop is to try to create an image and
excitement of your youth. The concept was to try to create something that was old
world and to create skylines as well.
At the request of Village Manager Boehm and Director of Community
Development Kallien they were asked to look at certain buildings in the Oak Brook
community and there were certain elements that they saw such as eyebrows,
detailing and of some of the brick patterns that they wanted to carry into the
building. There was a bit of an old world charm that they picked up on that they
wanted to bring into the center.
In the skyline they provided a lot of variety and texture and an important element is
to create a signature piece that has some heights. The higher end retailers want
higher ceilings than they are used to. The village ordinance under the B -1 District
is 30 feet. Typical retail clear ceiling height is 14 feet, which is 16 -17 feet to
structure. Multiplied by 2, that exceeds the 30 feet allowed by ordinance, which is
the reason for one of the text amendments they are seeking, in order to get the
height that retailers want and desire. The retailers are going to come in and do a lot
more exciting and enticing things. There is a text amendment to allow the tower
which is unoccupied space, but the intent is try and create a signature element that
will be a lighted tower that will be the place that people acknowledge and see from
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on and off the property, and hopefully from the tollway. The archways are to
signify a gateway and bring people to the rear where there is parking. They have
set up valet areas on the site plan for people. They will run lights along and across
the pedestrian paths and walkways to create excitement and light. They pay a lot of
attention to lighting at night so that the buildings jump at you. They have created
areas along the water for 30,000 square feet of restaurant use. The patio areas are
designed to be along the waterways. Building K is a smaller area and will be
enclosed in a protective barrier and will be designed to be part of the building. By
barrier they mean masonry walls and ornamental railing. The intent is to be a high -
end environment with linen tables and hopefully some awnings. There is a
requirement that they use teak furniture, wrought iron furniture, that it be designed
to be compatible with the interior design and style of the restaurant. They have
even tried to have the trash enclosures be compatible with the buildings. There are
a variety of the types of lights they will be putting on the buildings as well as on the
parking lot pedestrian lighting. There are a series of poles that go around the entire
ring of the center to create the ambience of the streetscape. The materials used are
a combination of brick and stone and different material such as hardy boards,
which is a siding that is made out of a cementitious product that will not deteriorate
and rot. They are trying to create hard materials that can be touched and felt and
not be damaged and other materials that are lighter but provide that interesting
character that will be built over a period of time, as well as some prairie stone.
He said that Village Manager Boehm and Director of Community Development
Kallien suggested a requirement that the tenants must get design approval from the
center prior to going to the Village for permit approval. The tenants are each
required to install blade signs and that is to get the scale, some are down low,
which is why they have planters so that they cannot be tripped over or they are up
at certain heights. The intent is to provide some character, so there is a 30 -inch
projection for the blade signs for each tenant. They do not want people coming in
and just place a box sign on a wall. There are some creative allowances for
additional heights and widths if they do some 3- dimensional type signage. They are
also asking for marquee signs that are not just on the building itself. Another reason
that they asked for the building height to be a little higher was the elevation. You
want the signs to fit the proportion to the heights and historical character of the
windows, etc. so they are asking for the ability to get the signs up where they
belong, which is the second part of the amendment to the signage, in order to get
the signs up to the height of the roof line and that has to do primarily with the needs
of the tenant. The monument sign is on tab number 6. It is not a typical monument
sign. It is a 4 -side structure with a natural roof structure. It is halo lit identification
for the project and then pin mounted very classy signs for the tenants that would be
ground lit, so they will not be traditional illuminated signs. At the entrance is
identification just for the center itself, which is labeled as sign B. It is a smaller
sign. Both of the signs could be bigger as allowed by ordinance, they are trying to
do something that fits in with and identifies the quality and the character of the
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center.
Ms. Riordan asked about the rear treatment of the building, which is not being
treated as the back of the building but as an additional front and how they will be
used with the south parking lot and from the perspective of the residents of the R -2
subdivision south of the tollway.
Mr. Klover reviewed the rear elevations. Decorative walls have been designed to
match the center itself and have tried to mirror the pattern and rhythm of the front
of the building. There are also a series of tower elements and corners to accentuate
and make the corners strong.
Wendy Schulenberg, principal with Daniel Weinback & Partners
She said they are a landscape architectural firm in Chicago. Landscaping is very
important in a lifestyle center. There is a tree survey and tree list contained in the
file. The pond is the most significant element on the site and there is a lot of mature
vegetation around the pond. Adjacent to the existing buildings is similar vegetation
and then there are parking lot plantings. Because of the scope of a development like
this there are large areas that will need to be graded and they will be losing a good
majority of the vegetation. There are able to save the most significant plantings,
which are located around the pond. Along Meyers Road there are overhead power
lines and shade trees had been planted that have been topped off over time. They
may take those out and put more ornamentals in that would be in a better scale for
the overhead lines. Spotted around the site are a number of trees they feel they can
relocate. Some are 7 and 8 -inch caliper trees. There are some honey locust, some
very nice ginkgo trees, maple and quite a bit of ash trees on the site.
There is a concern that there is going to be an ash borer that is going to come and
sort of be the next Dutch Elm disease and is going to wipe out all ash trees in the
near future. It is not a certainty that it is going to happen, but it is in southern
Michigan and could be making its way here. Most municipalities are not allowing
ash trees to be planted anymore and a lot of the really big trees on this site are ash
trees. They will not do anything with the ones located around the pond they will
wait to see what happens. They will spare the expense of relocating those in the
parking lot or of movable size because it does not make any sense at this point to
move them.
As you come up to the corner of Butterfield and Meyers Road it is difficult to see
into the site and there are some trees at the corner that they would be considering
taking out just to allow some views into the site. It will be a nice view of the new
development.
The west side of the pond will be graded out. They will upgrade the existing pond
landscaping. Along the pond edge there is an existing lawn that actually goes down
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to the water edge. They want to develop a more natural feel along the pond edge as
shown on tab 23 of the case file. They will be using more water edge grasses and
wildflowers to give it a more natural pond edge from the water line up to the path.
There is an existing path around the pond that they will be maintaining and will
repair it in a couple of places. They will extend the path so that it extends up at
either end of the building development. There are some boulder walls that are
spotted around the path. In some areas it will require steps to bring it up to grade
and they would use boulder walls along those steps.
Along the outdoor dining areas they will have groupings of multi- stemmed trees,
such as alders and birch; the birch of which have a very nice bark. They are
considering up lighting those trees in between the outdoor dining spaces so that in
the evening there will be a nice glow. A green screen will allow vines to grow
across. The grasses will help to keep people from walking directly into the pond
and it will help to keep the geese away from the pond.
Along Butterfield Road they will be cleaning up the existing planting, there are a
couple of big willow trees that will remain there. They will be adding new benches
along the path and they will be adding seating areas and additional planting for
color.
The section along Meyers Road where the overhead lines exist they will really
clean up the area and replace some of the trees that are in bad shape from being
topped off due to the overhead lines.
Along the perimeter of the site there is a 10 -foot setback requirement. They are
looking for a slightly reduced setback width. They will provide the plantings
required and screening for parking. Along Butterfield Road there is a much greater
setback however, all of the edges will have very heavy planting and they certainly
want a beautiful view with lots of color so that when people drive and also the
required screening for the parking lot. There is a hedge that is required in front of
all the parking areas. The other important feature at the front would be the signage.
There will be kind of a red mass at both sign locations. There will be lots of shrub
roses and things that will give very long term color. They will be mixing annuals
in at the signage and at the storefronts.
The parking lot landscaping has a number of different issues. They have plantings
spread all throughout the parking lot. The requirement is to provide 10% green
space, they are providing 11% green space throughout the parking lot. There is a
requirement to provide a tree every 15 parking spaces. They do have areas where
they do exceed that. Some are 16 spaces, some are 17, a few spaces in the back it
gets up over 20, but as a requirement 820 divided by 15, they need 54 trees. They
are actually providing 54 shade trees, some relocated trees, and using some
ornamental trees. In the location of the utility easement they would look at adding
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ornamental trees in place of the shade trees. With all of the trees, they really
exceed the overall requirement and almost double the inches that are required.
They are also looking at planting trees that are larger than the minimum 3 -inch
caliper required; they are providing a minimum of 4 -inch caliper trees and in some
places they will be larger than that. They want that mature feeling you get when
you enter at the corner to continue on as you get into the site. Some of the trees
they are going to relocate are 7 and 8 -inch caliper. They are looking to spot those
around the site in order to get that mature feeling in all portions of the parking lot.
Every three parking bays a divider is required, there is one location they are short
where they lack that divider. What they feel they gain by putting in the pedestrian
connection with the pavers and lighting is much more important than that six -foot
divider.
The whole storefront is the most important part of the development. Most retailers
do not want landscaping in this case they want landscaping in the front and they
want nice landscaping. They are going to be introducing all kinds of raised planters
that would be spotted all along the storefronts. Not wanting to make it look like a
wall they will be using bollards, and will be providing a feeling of safety. The
storefront is where they will use seasonal colors. There will be bulbs, annuals and
freestanding planters with a lot of color and more designing character. There are
pages of plant photos in the files that they show would do well here, are hardy and
will give color with a landscape that really compliments the architecture of this
development.
Ms. Riordan summarized that after the pond, the easement, the high power lines
and the front flood plain, they really have about 11 acres to develop so they have
tried to design them to fit and at the same time, if they do not have a certain amount
of retail they will not be able to attract tenants. Unless they have so much retail,
retailers are not going to be interested. Ideally they would like to have about
200,000 feet, and they have been able to come up with about 190,000 feet, which
they still think is working in terms of retailers. That is why it is so important to try
and make the site work with what they have. They have talked a lot about the
features and design criteria and in the books Exhibit 12 is a spiral bound book that
is the tenant design criteria. It lays out every feature of the project. The project is
going to be totally owned and controlled by a single owner. Every space will be
leased. The design criteria booklet is going to be part of the leases. Tenants will
come to them first, they will review the plans to ensure they have complied with
the design criteria, so that by the time they come in for permit they will have
approved the plans. They believe this project is going to cost in excess of fifty
million dollars. Not only do they want to make sure that the Village gets what they
are presenting, they want to make sure they protect what is going on there. They
cannot represent to one tenant that this is going to be a high scale project and then
let something unacceptable happen in another area. In the narrative for the map
amendment there are some permitted uses in the B -1 area that they do not want
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people to have. For example, motor vehicles, barbershops, laundromats, shoe
repair, there is a list that they would like to have excluded by ordinance so they do
not have that battle with potential tenants.
Member Wolin said that it seems to be an excellent project and he is very familiar
with the property. He spent seven years in the 3001 building looking over the
pond. The pond was never a safety issue because it was an office building, but
with a shopping center there he does have a concern about safety because there will
be children there.
Ms. Riordan responded said that they really like the pond, but if they had it their
way they would get rid of the path especially from a liability view. The Village has
asked them to enhance the path and put out lighting. If the village requires it they
have tried to do the higher landscaping trying to make it difficult for any one to
walk into the pond.
Mr. Klover said that there is no direct access from the restaurants. There is no
access; there is emergency access only for security. It is all railed and for control
of the operators you would be able to walk to the back to see it, but it is completely
screened. You cannot get there without going outside to the path. Ms. Schulenberg
said in order to get to the path at either end of the building there are some steps that
you can walk down. There is a significant change in grade to get down to where
the path is.
Member Wolin said that from the standpoint of safety, they may consider some
attractive fencing at either end where people have access to the path. He would
urge them to consider eliminating the path.
Member Braune said that its current population would not use the path, however,
with people coming to the site as a destination point they may use the path.
Member Bulin noted that while waiting for a table at a restaurant they could walk
around the path. He said that he thinks it would be a mistake to lose the path.
Chairwoman Payovich noted that if it is a lifestyle center with a health club it
would be an amenity.
Ms. Riordan said that as Ms. Schulenberg stated they would use landscaping to
make it difficult for people or geese to get into the water.
Ms. Schulenberg said that it would be particularly difficult for young children to
get out into the water.
Ms. Riordan said that as the property owner they have a concern also just from
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basic liability issues.
Mr. Klover noted that if you think about the layout of the buildings and the
locations of the) doors and the access points, if a child would get away they would
have to go quite a ways before they can get around and all the way down to the
pond.
They reviewed the access in and out of the underground parking lot. The
underground will be completely controlled.
Member Wolin questioned whether the one million dollars in sales tax was the total
amount to be collected or the portion to the Village. Ms. Riordan responded that
the million dollars was the portion to the Village only. The Village levies a 1'/4%
tax on all sales.
Member Wolin said that it is a very well thought out development and a lot of good
work has gone into it. Ms. Riordan responded that they have had a good team, and
Director of Community Development Bob Kallien, has been awesome to deal with.
Member Goel asked about driving around the shopping center to get from building
to building. Mr. O'Hara responded that the hope is that you will walk once you
have parked. The idea in making it so attractive is so that you will want to walk
around. The addition of the pedestrian crosswalk is to help provide that interaction
between buildings. All the parking is in close proximity to the buildings, which is
the nice thing about the plan. Ms. Riordan referred them to Exhibit on tab 9. Mr.
O'Hara explained that each red line indicates a pedestrian walkway that will get
you around the site.
Chairwoman Payovich asked for any comments from the audience.
Patrick Donnelly, resident of Western Springs, said that he shops in the area often.
He thinks it will add a lot to the Oak Brook community and he just came to
observe.
No other comments were received from the audience, either in support or in
opposition to the request.
Member Braune said that he agrees with everyone and believes it will be a nice
addition to the Oak Brook area. He is particularly attuned to traffic problems and
asked for assurance that the traffic will be well controlled. Mr. O'Hara said that he
is fairly confident. He said that he believe if you are going to obey the law you
will. However, there are people that believe the roads were made for them, not the
law. To say that people will not pull into a right turn out to make a left, if they can
do it, and they are inclined to do it, they will do it. There is a lot of flexibility in
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the access system. There is a traffic signal to get into the site and a traffic signal at
Technology Drive. If you can reduce the conflict points internally a lot of the
traffic problems will be solved, especially on site. The idea is to get the people to
parking as soon as possible while minimizing the number of conflicts and he
believes they have accomplished that. There is no doubt that Butterfield Road has
a lot of traffic on it. There are 40,000+ vehicles on it a day, which is a lot of traffic
and there is no relief in the very near future. This project will add to that by
adding a second to the delay, but 30 -40% of that is already on the system today.
There has been care taken in the planning for this site.
Member Braune said that when Costco was built there was concern about the
lighting facing the people across the highway. There appears to be a diagonal sight
line to the residences across the street. Ms. Riordan commented that the lighting
from the tollway would obviously be much more intense than anything on the site.
Mr. Klover said that there are restrictions on how high the poles can be on the back
of the site because of the high - powered transmission lines. There will not be wall
packs or direct illumination lights. There is a photometric in the booklet that is
designed to cut down on light pollution so there is not a spillage of light. When
there is a 35 -foot pole, obviously there is going to be some as you look up at it, but
they are designed so that they shoot light downward and not spill out. The tower is
designed to be lit up, but it is not a beacon. It is designed so that you can see it; it
would be no different than a church steeple that would be lit by lighting, which he
does not think anyone would find offensive. The whole idea is to have a character
and an image. They have been very careful not to have wall packs over the doors
that shine down. Any lighting they will have will have light fixtures directed down
or glazing the walls to accentuate the walls as opposed to just spilling out over the
sidewalks. Lighting is important and some of the centers look the best in the
evening. Most of the sales are done in the wintertime went it gets dark early. In an
outdoor center it is really important. You have to provide enough lighting so that
there is a comfort level. You need a general illumination from the parking lot level
and then you count on the accent lights from the building and from the tenants, the
sidewalk lighting to get the ambience and character.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that there things in the Zoning
Ordinance that are relative to controlling lighting. It says that the source of the
lighting has to be obscured. The maximum foot - candle at the property line cannot
be any more than .5, so they will be held to that standard at the southern property
line. There is also an approximate 200 -foot right of way at I88, and then there is
vacant property that is unincorporated. They do not have the same issues that came
up with Costco. Costco's building is far larger than all of these buildings combined.
The signs on the south wall of that building are substantially big and very bright.
Member Braune noted that no residential property owners were notified, so they
must have been far enough away.
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Director of Community Development Kallien said that the maximum height that
could be built under the current zoning is 76 feet, under the ORA -1 District. There
is a certain amount of lighting that could have from that type of thing. There are
very tall buildings around it, directly to the northeast on the Oakbrook Terrace side.
Lombard has plans to the west and there is a hotel there now. There is a substantial
amount of light in the area. This site will be rather obscure when you compare it to
its surroundings. If they are successful in getting approvals, when they get their
building permit they will make sure that they comply with the Village Code.
Member Tropinski asked how the deliveries would be handled. Mr. Klover
responded that said that the rear of the buildings have delivery areas, that are
actually have screened truck walls designed into them. They are tall enough to
obscure any trucks.
Member Braune asked how the permitted uses they want disallowed, will be
enforced. Ms. Riordan said that they will enforce it in their covenants.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that under simple zoning
concepts if something is listed as a permitted use by right the applicant or owner
has the right to that use. However, if the applicant chooses to restrict the types of
uses they feel are inappropriate to their development, they can in essence ask the
Village if there is a map amendment they can incorporate those limitations into the
final ordinance. If it is sold the next owner could ask that some of those things be
relieved to modify the ordinance.
Member Braune said that they only comment that he saw from the public was a
letter to the editor in the newspaper where they questioned whether we need
another set of upscale retail in the area, which is not a rational question based upon
what they have seen here, however, it is worth a question on potential tenants.
Sometimes if the rent is too high you get empty storefronts and they are hard to fill
sometimes. Ms. Riordan responded that right now they have had an incredible
response from tenants that are interested in coming in. Right now they are in the
process of trying to figure out a way to pick and choose who is going to be allowed
in the center. Because of the amount of money that the ownership is spending that
is not going to happen unless they have tenants. They are not going to build these
buildings on spec and then hope they have tenants come lease them. The lease is
going to be completed before they ever do this. This is happening. It is either
happening here or it is happening to the west of Oak Brook, they believe that it is
better to be happening here. They think that it is a great use for the property and
will spur more redevelopment and it keeps the dollars in the Village.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that relative to the market, when
you look at Oak Brook's commercial space, Oakbrook Center normally has a
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backlog of who wants to locate there, they can be very selective and can pick and
choose and they actually have people that move around. The other centers in town,
there were some vacancies, but the storefronts are generally full. The most difficult
places are the northeast and northwest corners of Route 83 and 16th Street. Part of
the problem there is not that there isn't a market, but they're not laid out maybe the
best that they could be. The access and visibility is poor. You see them and then
wonder how to get in the site and by the time you figure it out you are already past
it. They really are the northerly extension of the shopping center. The Oak Brook
market has the capacity to support additional retail. Most of the Village
government is funded on sales tax and when there is the opportunity to expand a
base, it has to be looked at very seriously.
Member Goel said that the plan for the path around the pond seems to be very good
and if it is made attractive enough, people will come and maybe jog or walk around
there in good weather. Perhaps they could consider revising it to be a jogging trail
and would add to the center. Ms. Riordan responded that was something they
could look at. In terms of tenants they would have to make sure that is something
they would like to have going on to see if it is a feasible use. She said that she did
not know if the retailers would like people taking up parking spaces to go jog
around the pond. She said that is something they can explore.
Member Bulin questioned where the additional 75 valet parking spaces were that
were referred to in Exhibit 10. Ms. Riordan responded that their thinking was that
the valet company could double or triple -park the cars. However, they do meet the
Ordinance without out that. Because there is a single ownership, there would be a
single valet company. Under the map amendment tab on page 10 the calculations
determine that they need 1009 spaces. They do have actually 1010 spaces without
the valet parking, which meets the requirements of the Ordinance.
Member Bulin said that he is very much in favor of the path around the pond and
believes it will give an additional amenity to the lifestyle center. He asked if it
would connect to the Village's existing bike path system. Ms. Schulenberg
responded that part of the problem is the change in grade. With the existing grade
that is at the pond and the existing topography that they have with the new
development there is such a change in grade that they are not able to do that.
Member Bulin said that he did not necessarily mean that particular path, however,
it was referenced in their materials that there would be a bike rack and there really
is no bike path on Butterfield Road or Meyers Road.
Village Engineer Durfey responded that there is no connection along Meyers Road
yet, but they foresee sometime in the future there will be. There is a proposal that
he has asked the engineers to look at regarding the construction of a sidewalk along
the north side of the pond from their easterly driveway to Meyers Road. There is a
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further proposal, sometime in the future, through working with the State, the
Village and Oakbrook Terrace of constructing a sidewalk along the south side of
Butterfield and 22nd Street all the way to Route 83. Hopefully some long -term
sidewalks in the commercial areas will be accomplished.
Member Bulin asked to what extent the tenant could alter the exterior elevations of
the buildings. Ms. Riordan said that there is some allowance for color or glass or
entry, but the owner is building the buildings.
Member Bulin said that he believes it is a great package.
Ms. Riordan summarized the request. She said that they are seeking the following
in their petitions:
1. map amendment - to change the zoning district from ORA -1 to B -1.
• They believe their requests meet the standards they will not have a
deleterious impact on the surrounding properties. They think if there
is going to be any impact it will be a positive one.
• The proposed B -1 district is consistent with surrounding land uses
and will not have any negative impact on the neighborhood.
• They believe there is going to be more of a gain to the public for this
project.
• It will be beneficial to the health, safety and welfare of the public
and will not have any negative impacts.
2. Three text amendments are being sought:
• Section 13 -7A -1 — To add "health clubs" as a permitted use in the
B -1 District.
• Section 13 -7A -3B — Amend text to change Structure height from 30
feet to 50 feet.
• Section 13 -3 -8 — Amend text to allow design elements from 15 feet
to 30 feet.
a. They believe that these changes are consistent with the
neighborhood with Fountain Square to the north and the
current trends in the Village.
b. This will be a decrease in the allowable heights, if the
property were zoned ORA -1.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that he alerted the petitioner of
his concerns. The provision they are seeking to 13 -3 -8 would amend all structures
in the Village. In this particular case 30 feet would work, because we know what
we are getting. However, to allow this to every property, he and he believes the
Village Board would feel uncomfortable in allowing this amendment in its current
state because the request is too open. Perhaps the Plan Commission could
recommend to the Village Board to limit it in some fashion and direct the Village
attorney to work on that as part of an ordinance.
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3. Special Use for outdoor dining.
• They believe the special use is located and designed so that it will
not have a negative impact on the public health, safety and welfare.
• It will not have a negative impact on surrounding property values.
• The staff report speaks to 3 issues and they agree to the following
conditions to be added to the special use:
1. That the standards outlined in the request are enforced.
2. That a safety mechanism is devised for the seating in
Building K if it is developed.
3. That a maximum occupancy is established.
4. The safety mechanism devised for Building K will restrict a
car from going forward.
4. Plat of Consolidation — To allow them to consolidate the 5 individual
parcels they now have into one single parcel. They are also seeking 2
variations to the Subdivision Regulations.
• Variation to the monumentation requirements
• Variation to the public utility easements
• They are also seeking annexation of an unincorporated parcel, prior
to plat approval.
• Approval of the plat subject dedication of the right of way.
They are also seeking variations that will be heard before the Zoning Board of
Appeals in February.
Director of Community Development Kallien questioned the purpose of the
planters along the walkway. Mr. Klover responded that they are designed for
aesthetics as well as safety.
Motion by Member Goel, seconded by Member Tropinski to recommend for
approval the map amendment as requested to rezone the property from ORA -1 to
B -1. In making this recommendation, the Plan Commission finds that:
1. The 19.7 acres is zoned ORA -1 and has been zoned /used for nonresidential
purposes for nearly 30 years.
2. The Butterfield Road /22"d Street corridor in this area is home to a variety of
office, commercial and restaurant uses.
3. Recent development /redevelopment activities in close proximity to the
proposed development have resulted in a number of new commercial
properties, in particular the Fountain Square development located directly to
the north and the Embassy Suites development to the west.
4. The prevalent land use to the north and west of the Oak Brook Promenade
site is retail.
5. In Oak Brook, at lease two recent redevelopment projects (i.e., Shops of
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Oak Brook and Costco) have been approved and developed which involved
a change in the previous Off /Warehouse use to a retail use.
6. An amendment that changes the zoning of the subject property to B -1, and
development of the Oak Brook Promenade would in fact be consistent with
the surrounding development.
7. The applicant has addressed all of the applicable factors required for a map
amendment and in writing, which is located under the map amendment tab
on pages 2 through 15.
8. No comments have been received from the neighboring property owners
that the proposed map amendment will negatively impact the adjacent
properties.
Roll Call Vote:
Ayes: 6 — Members Adrian, Braune, Bulin, Goel, Tropinski, Wolin and
Chairwoman Payovich
Nays: 0 — None.
Absent: 1 — Member Adrian. Motion Carried
Motion by Member Goel, seconded by Member Wolin to recommend for approval
the special use as requested to allow up to three outdoor dining areas adjacent to
restaurant. In making this recommendation, the Plan Commission finds that:
1. The developer is proposing that the Oak Brook Promenade have up to three
upscale restaurants at part of its final tenant mix.
2. Most of the more upscale restaurants in the Village include a number
located at the Oakbrook Center as well as several along 22nd Street have
approved special uses for outdoor dining arrangements and successfully
operate those facilities for the benefit of their patrons as well as the
community.
3. Even though the specifics are not known at this time concerning the actual
restaurants that will be locating in the Oak Brook Promenade, the applicant
has proposed as part of their special use, specific design criteria that will
control the location, size, design, lighting and operational aspects of teach
outdoor dining area.
4. The outdoor dining arrangement proposed by the applicant is consistent
with previously approved special uses for other outdoor dining
arrangements in the Village.
5. The applicant has addressed all of the applicable factor required for a
special use as explained in writing under the special use tab in the case file.
6. No comments have been received from the neighboring property owners
that the proposed special use will negatively impact the adjacent properties.
7. With regard to the outdoor dining area proposed for building K, it may be
appropriate to integrate additional landscaping /physical barriers between the
dining area and the parking lot to more effectively protect patrons from an
errant car.
8. Any future outdoor dining area that is proposed to be constructed that is not
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in substantial conformance to the approved special use would be required to
seek and amendment to the special use.
9. The maximum seating capacities for each outdoor dining area would be
established at time of permit per the building and life safety code as adopted
by the Village of Oak Brook.
10. The approved outdoor dining areas are to be used for outdoor dining
purpose only and in no way to be used as a party deck.
Roll Call Vote:
Ayes: 6 — Members Adrian, Braune, Bulin, Goel, Tropinski, Wolin and
Chairwoman Payovich
Nays: 0 — None.
Absent: 1 — Member Adrian. Motion Carried
Motion by Member Goel, seconded by Member Braune to recommend for approval
the text amendments as requested in order to facilitate construction of the proposed
Oak Brook Promenade project. In making this recommendation, the Plan
Commission finds that:
1. The applicant has proposed three text amendments to the Zoning Ordinance
in order to develop the Oak Brook Promenade as presented.
2. The amendment which would increase the maximum height of structures in
the B -1 District would have, applicability with the two existing parcels
zoned B -1 (the two shopping centers at the northwest and northeast corner
of Route 83 and 16th Street).
3. The amendment to permit an additional 30 feet of height above the
maximum permitted by the district for appurtenances may be appropriate
for the proposed Oak Brook Promenade but may be excessive when
compared to the other developments in the community. This provision may
be limited to redevelopment projects of a particular size, scale or location.
Appropriate language is to be added as determined by the Village Attorney.
4. The Plan Commission concurs with the concept of permitting increased
building heights at the proposed location for the Oak Brook Promenade.
The Village Board may consider a review of the other non - residential
zoning districts to determine what changes if any should be made.
5. As presented by the applicant, the proposed increased structure height for
the Oak Brook Promenade is deemed reasonable and will not negatively
impact any adjacent property owners.
6. The proposed amendment to add health clubs as a permitted use in the B -1
District is deemed reasonable for not only the Oak Brook Promenade but
any B -1 property in the Village.
7. No comments have been received from any property owner in Oak Brook
that objects to the proposed text amendments to the Zoning Ordinance.
8. The applicant has addressed all of the applicable factor required for a text
amendment and as explained in writing under the text amendment tab on
pages 3 through 6 in the case file.
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Roll Call Vote:
Ayes: 6 — Members Adrian, Braune, Bulin, Goel, Tropinski, Wolin and
Chairwoman Payovich
Nays: 0 — None.
Absent: 1 — Member Adrian. Motion Carried
Motion by Member Goel, seconded by Member Braune to recommend for approval
of a final plat of consolidation and a variation to the Subdivision Regulations. In
making this recommendation, the Plan Commission finds that:
1. The proposed plat consolidates the five existing parcels that are of this
project into one parcel. One of these parcels is contiguous to the site but is
presently outside the Village limits (i.e., unincorporated).
2. The single 19.7 -acre parcel will accommodate an approximate 180,000
square foot mixed -use project consisting of retail, restaurant and office uses.
3. The proposed variations to the Subdivision Regulations request by the
applicant relates to required monumentation and public utility easements.
4. Because the site is already developed and a portion of the site improvement
will be maintained, the variation to the monumentation requirement is being
requested.
5. With respect to the requested variation, the Village has in the past (700/800
Commerce) approved a similar request.
6. The final plat consolidation satisfies all other aspects and requirements for
the Village's Subdivision Regulations including that neither the proposed
variation nor final plat conflicts with any adjacent properties.
7. That the applicant addresses all issues raised by Village Engineer Durfey in
his memorandum dated January 12, 2005 on page 12 of the case file
including final engineering approval.
8. Annexation approval of the unincorporated parcel as a condition of final
approval by the Village.
9. Future dedication to DuPage County of the Meyers Road right of way.
10. No comments have been received from any property owner in Oak Brook
that objects to the proposed text amendments to the Zoning Ordinance.
Roll Call Vote:
Ayes: 6 — Members Adrian, Braune, Bulin, Goel, Tropinski, Wolin and
Chairwoman Payovich
Nays: 0 — None.
Absent: 1 — Member Adrian. Motion Carried
6. OTHER BUSINESS
There was no other business to discuss.
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OTHER BUSINESS
7. ADJOURNMENT:
Motion by Member Braune, seconded by Member Wolin to adjourn the meeting at
9:55 p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
Robert L. Kallien, Jr.
Robert Kallien, Director of Community Development
Secretary
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ADJOURMENT