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MINUTES OF THE MARCH 16, 2009 REGULAR
MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK APPROVED ON
SEPTEMBER 21, 2009
CALL TO ORDER: CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairwoman
Payovich in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler Government Center at
7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL: ROLL CALL
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairwoman Barbara Payovich, Raju Iyer, Richard Knitter, Gopal
Lalmalani (arrived 7:34 p.m.), Mintu Sharma, Vivek Singhal and
Marcia Tropinski
IN ATTENDANCE: Gerald Wolin, Trustee, Robert Kallien Jr., Director of
Community Development and Dale Durfey, Jr., Village Engineer
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MINUTES
PLAN COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 16, 2009
Motion by Member Knitter, seconded by Member Singhal to approve the minutes of
the February 16, 2009 Regular Plan Commission Meeting as amended. VOICE
VOTE: Motion Carried.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS UNFINISHED
BUSINI -sSS
There was no unfinished business to discuss.
NEW BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS
A. MCDONALD' S SPRING ROAD RESUBDIVISION NO. 3 — 1120 22ND McDONALD°S
SPRING ROAD
STREET AND 2105 SPRING ROAD INCLUDING VACANT LAND -- NO 3 - FINAL
THREE -LOT FINAL PLAT OF SUBDIVISION WITH VARIATIONS TO FLAT - 1120 22nd
ST and 2105
THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, SPRING RD — 3-
LOT SUBDIV,
Director of Community Development Kallien briefly reviewed the request to
resubdivide the property containing two existing parcels, bounded by 22r' Street,
Spring Road Commerce Drive and McDonald's Drive. One lot contains a
McDonald's restaurant and the other contains parking and storm water management.
It was always envisioned in the future that the property would be resubdivided to
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accommodate additional development, which is why McDonald's has brought this
request to the Village.
Brendan Daly, Project Manager, Bollinger, Lach and Associates, Inc., 333 Pierce
Road, Itasca, Illinois, reviewed the request. The McDonald's restaurant is located
on the southwest quadrant of the property and the balance is storm water
management to the north and parking on the eastern half. The intent for the
resubdivision is for McDonald's to split off the northwest quadrant to create a new
lot in order to create a leasable lot that is separate from the rest of what they own in
order to enter into further negotiations with Gibsons restaurant in order to locate that
restaurant on the new lot number 3. The storm water management on the site is
currently under review by the Village and will be located on the eastern portion of
lot 3, The site is naturally graded as a dry pond. In the new development, there will
be walls around the perimeter of the basin so that the volume that is currently in the
pond is accommodated during the 100 -year storm. The eastern half of lot 3 gets
deeper so that the volume is preserved. There is no change in detention volume for
the new development. The pond was originally developed with the intention that the
entire site would eventually be developed, so that was already taken into account
when it was engineered.
Director of Community Development Kallien added for the benefit of the
Commissioners that about a year ago the Gibsons Steakhouse had gone through the
process for outdoor dining approval on this site and the restaurant does have
building permits under reviewing. What they are proposing for the subdivision fits
exactly what is in currently for permits.
Member Knitter questioned the parking that would be provided for Gibsons.
Director of Community Development Kallien responded that parking would be
provided entirely by valet parking. Gibsons worked out a parking arrangement with
McDonald's regarding surface parking on the north eastern side of the property and
an agreement with the owners of the parking deck located directly to the north of the
property. The valet parking arrangement is required to be recorded against the
property. In order for Gibsons to work it must have the parking arrangement. If lot
2 would ever be developed the agreement would have to be modified. In that event
a portion of lot 2 could eventually have a parking deck located on it, the possibility
of which had originally been discussed.
Member Knitter asked whether it had been discussed to not subdivide the property;
to leave lot 2 there and then have Gibsons lease it in order to operate a facility that
would meet the parking requirements, since the restaurant does not fit on an 80,000
square foot lot. He commented among other things that the idea was dumb.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that the approvals had already
been acted upon by the Village Boards
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Member Singhal asked if the restaurant had already been approved.
Director of Community Development Kallien responded that it had been approved
by the Village Board and the plans are now in for pen-nits and under review. All of
the necessary approvals have been obtained by the Village. The purpose now is to
reconcile the engineering drawings through the Engineering Department and the
building drawings are being reviewed by the Community Development Department.
Member Singhal questioned what would happen if the Plan Commission decided not
to approve the plat.
Director of Community Development Kallien responded that the Plan Commission
does not have to approve the plan, but the question would be on what grounds? The
proposed plat fully meets the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations, which is
the basis for all requests for subdivision approval. If the request meets those
regulations, then in his opinion, the Commission is compelled to approve it.
Member Singhal questioned why Member Knitter thinks it is an idiotic thing to do.
Member Knitter summarized that there is a reason to have parking requirements so
that someone can park on the lot. If parking is on another lot, he questioned what
would happen if McDonald's should decide to develop lot 2; and then there would
be a lack of parking that would require additional valet parking elsewhere. It would
be good to have the foresight to plan and have parking on the site if you can, and
currently it could be provided on lot 2.
Director of Community Development Kallien noted that lot 2 does not have enough
room to provide the required parking for Gibsons. The plat is requested as part of a
legal transaction between McDonald's Corporation and Gibsons Steakhouse. For
this to work, both are part of an agreement that belongs to the property.
McDonald's will not be able to sell off or redevelop the property unless they can
provide a parking accommodation for this use. McDonald's is the landowner and
they worked out an agreement for Gibsons.
Member Singhal questioned whether the Village would have a copy of that
agreement, so that parking does not become an issue as it has become downtown.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that if Gibsons develops as
planned, they are getting the required parking from a combination of spaces that are
made available on new lot 2 (owned by McDonald's) and the balance is being
provided for by the parking structures located to the north in Commerce Plaza. In
order for Gibsons' to operate they need to have that allocation of parking. Because
there is a written agreement with McDonald's they are bound to provide that amount
of parking on the site. if McDonald's ever decided to develop that property, they
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would be required to provide parking on lot 2, by either providing a parking
structure or another arrangement.
Member Singhal asked if the Director was comfortable with those agreements.
Director of Community Development Kallien responded that he was.
Member Knitter commented that he thought it set a bad precedent.
Trustee Wolin commented that valid points were raised by Member Knitter and just
like most things in life, there are advantages and disadvantages. There are some
nice advantages and many people are looking forward to the development. The
Village did have an opportunity to review the plan and it will be a very attractive
addition to the corner. He questioned the water detention which currently takes up a
good portion of proposed lot 3, which would be constructed with big walls to make
it deeper and asked how deep it would be.
Mr. Daly responded that the invert elevation of the outward structure would be the
same. The grade goes down to the basin at an approximate 3 to 1 slope. There is a
slope across the pond as well. There is positive drainage to outlet structure, which
will be shifted slightly to the northeast, but will drain to its current location. As the
side slopes are made vertical, you gain the wedge of volume and the wall is needed
to provide for the grade change. It has been reviewed by the Engineering
Department. They reviewed how the building would sit exactly upon the site to gain
the proper amount of volume, so that there would be no change in the volume for
storm water management as there is on the site as is provided today and was
designed with that point in mind. However, it will look different, but will provide
the same amount of volume. Safety measures will be put in place, such as safety
rails and fence around the basin. The walls will be 8 -9 feet vertically, from the top
of the wall to the bottom on the detention basin. Gibsons will incur the cost to
construct the walls with the intent of complying with the storm water management
requirements.
Trustee Wolin questioned whether it could be specified that it would be an attractive
wall and not concrete blocks; and that a safety railing and fence would be provided
around it with some shrubs on the outside so that it would look. attractive.
Director of Community Development Kallien noted that the plan submitted by
Gibsons incorporates all of those elements. They will be using decorative block
with decorative railings along with extensive landscaping so that it is a self
contained element. He noted that those items are more of an engineering issue and
not a requirement in order to subdivide the property. Technically the building and
storm water could be built, without subdivision approval, but McDonald's feels that
in order to formally lease the property to Gibsons to have a land lease in order to
formalize the transaction.
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Trustee Wolin asked if the requirements around the storm water facility could be
included as a condition on the plat.
Village Engineer Durfey responded that aesthetic stipulations such as a safety railing
around a detention basin are independent of the act of subdivision. Aesthetics are
more of a requirement at the permitting stage. He noted that his Civil Engineer has
probably already brought up the question of the railing and designed it into the
project anyway for safety sake. He did not think from their own liability viewpoint
that McDonald's or Gibsons' would like to have a 9 -foot wall that someone could
fall over. They are going to put up safety measures to counteract that possibility.
They are both high end corporate people and would not like something that would
not look good either. He said that he believed all of the concerns raised would be
addressed by the applicant.
Chairwoman Payovich suggested that a paragraph be added to the recommendation
to the Village Board repeating the things that they have been told would happen.
Mr. Daly responded that they drawings have been submitted twice to the Village and
those elements are already in place.
Member Singhal asked if those plans would require Plan Commission approval.
Director of Community Development Kallien responded that they would not. He
noted that the site plan had previously been reviewed by the Plan Commission. It
contained the restaurant and the outdoor dining area, which is what needed the
approval of the Plan Commission for the special use request. A schematic was
provided showing how the detention pond would lay out and where it would be
located on the site and how the limited parking would be configured.
Motion by Member Tropinski, seconded by Member Iyer to recommend approval of
a final plat for the McDonald's Spring Road Resubdivision No. 3 for a three -lot
subdivision consisting of 9.5878 acres, including the following conditions:
1. Variation to Section 14 -6 -3K to eliminate the requirement for side and rear
yard easements.
2. Subject to final engineering approval, including all revisions included in the
Village Engineer's memorandum.
The Plan Commissioned reiterated the need that required detention pond safety
measures, including railings and aesthetics be put in place at the time of permitting.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 6 -- Members 1yer, Lalmalani Sharma, Singhal, Tropinski and Chairwoman
Payovich
Nays: 1 — Member Knitter. Motion Carried.
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B. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK -- TEXT AMENDMENT — STUDY AND VOB - STUDY
TO DEVELOP
REVIEW TO DEVELOP PROPOSED TEXT FOR ASSISTED xExT FOR
TOWN HOME AND MULTI - FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS MULTI - FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMEN'rs
Director of Community Development Kallien said that the Zoning Ordinance
currently allows single family detached housing, primarily on large lots and has
served the Village well from 1966 to the present. However, as a byproduct of the
recent court case with the DuPage Housing Authority and the Forest Preserve
District, as it relates to their desire to redevelop the St. Paschal's Friary into an
assisted living facility, Federal Judge Zagel in the case found that the Zoning
Ordinance has some holes in it. The holes primarily relate to a difficulty in being
able to provide senior housing, assisted living, multi - family and other types of non -
single family housing opportunities. A copy of the judge's findings, as to its
direction and correlation to our zoning, has been included in the case file. Single -
family detached homes are allowed as a permitted use in the R -1, R -2, R -3 and R -4
Districts. The R -3 and R -4 Districts allow for a hybrid of single - family housing as
special uses. The R -3 District also an age restricted development with single family
cluster type housing, with common land between the houses. In the R -4 District
Briar-wood Lakes has a number of units that are linked side by side and are allowed
only as a special use. There is no zoning available that allows for townhomes in
any of the districts. There is no zoning that would allow for multi - family structures,
such as a condominium development that would be linked vertically and side by
side. As part of the Clearwater development there was an element that allowed for a
17 -story condominium project, which was approved as part of a special use as part
of a mixed use development, but due to the poor economy the developers are not
going forward with it. The Oak Brook Club would fit the category of stacked
housing, but it was annexed into the Village and zoned R -1. Zoning for townhomes
and multi- family /apartment uses are lacking.
There is a reference to "nursing home" as a special use in two of the commercial
districts and "housing for the aged" is allowed as a special use in the Institutional
District. However, there is no zoning reference to senior housing, which could be
defined as independent living, assisted living or congregate care. This became very
apparent as the DuPage Housing Authority case went through the court.
The goal is to try to fill in the gaps and really address some of the Judge's issues. A
lot of the deficiencies could be taken care of by providing better definitions of what
"nursing homes" and "housing for the aged" are and to allow them in a couple of
other districts as special uses. The greater challenge is dealing with townhome and
multi - family, which may be difficult to find an existing zoning district to place these
types of uses in. It may not be appropriate to take the R -3 District and decide to
allow apartments, because it may have a lot of impact on the existing subdivisions.
Providing a new zoning category may be the appropriate way to allow these types of
housing opportunities. If a developer were able to secure land, they could apply for
a zoning change and would be required to address the LaSalle Factors in order to
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obtain a particular zoning. Some of the factors would be the impact on surrounding
land uses. Most things migrate to the locations that can best accommodate them.
The language is something that has been lacking in the ordinance.
Member Singhal asked if there was any existing land available that could be
identified to allow the special zoning.
Director of Community Development Kallien noted as an example, that the Oak
Brook Club is currently zoned R -1 and is nonconforming, so there is no opportunity
to expand the existing buildings by building up or expanding out. Instead of being
deemed a nonconforming use under the R -1 zoning, it may be appropriate for it to
belong in the new category and would then provide the safeguard that if there were
some significant damage done to any of the buildings, it could be properly rebuilt.
He also noted that specific parcels do not need to be targeted in order to create a new
zoning district.
Trustee Wolin noted that the Village has been required to make the change in the
Zoning Ordinance, there is no other choice. The Village is under an obligation to
create a new zoning district, but it is not under any obligation to change any of the
currently zoned land, as it has designated. The Oak Brook Club may request to
change to the new zoning district after it has been created. He questioned whether it
made sense to add some of the proposed uses as permitted uses in some of the
commercial districts.
Director of Community Development Kallien noted that the consultant reviewing
the Planned Unit Development proposal has suggested that in a large development
project, like Clearwater, the Village would have the right to approve a mixed use
development, regardless of what is approved through this text amendment.
Additional discussion and material will be provided at the next Plan Commission
meeting.
Motion by Member Knitter, seconded by Member Singhal to continue the hearing on
this matter to the next regular meeting of the Plan Commission. ROLL CALL
VOTE:
Ayes: 7 — Members Iyer, Knitter, Lalmalani Sharma, Singhal, Tropinski and
Chairwoman Payovich
Nays: 0 — None. Motion Carried.
OTHER BUSINESS
A. REVIEW PLAN COMMISSION DISCUSSION ISSUES
Director of Community Development Kallien reviewed some of the discussion
items:
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OTHER
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COMMISSION
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• Implementation of the Commercial Revitalization Plan — they have many of
the implementation tasks in a separate document and are in the process of
waiting for the consultant to further clarify them so that they can agree and
determine the potential funding sources, timeframe, etc. and will share it
when completed.
• Traffic Issue problems — Route 83 and 22"d Street. There are plans to
upgrade 22nd Street and the Village is also looking to upgrade north York
Road from 22"d Street going north.
• Friary Property — Trustee Wolin commented that the purchase of the
property was considered, but the funds are not there. The DuPage Housing
Authority has indicated that they would like to do something with the
property. Member Knitter commented that there may be some stimulus
money available to convert it to something beneficial.
• Recruiting large tenants into Oak Brook with high speed internet
capabilities.
• Question of whether annexing adjacent properties would be beneficial to
Oak Brook -- the land adjacent to Avenue Loire in Chateau Woods was
studied for the purpose of annexation. As a result the need for increase in
services without any tax gains. There has been discussions regarding the
property north of I -88 at York Road
• Defined duties of Plan Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals to
eliminate duplication of the two hearing bodies. Both boards contribute
positively to development cases; it may not be necessary to have both
involved in the same project and may be an ongoing discussion.
• FAR increases — After the implementation of the PUD Ordinance and
signage, may review districts to determine that there are correct FAR's to
facilitate redevelopment.
Motion by Member Knitter seconded by Member Singhal to continue the discussion
at the next regular meeting. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
There was no other business to discuss.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion by Member Knitter seconded by Member Iyer to adjourn the meeting at 8:44
p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
Robert Kallien, Di or of Co unity Development
Secretary
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