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Minutes - 04/17/2006 - Plan Commission1. 2. 3. 4 MINUTES OF THE APRIL 17, 2006 REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK APPROVED AS WRITTEN ON JUNE 19, 2006 CALL TO ORDER: The Regular Meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairwoman Payovich in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler Government Center at 7:33 p.m. ROLL CALL: Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons PRESENT: Chairwoman Barbara Payovich, Members, Raju Iyer, Gopal Lalmalani, Moin Saiyed, Marcia Tropinski and Gerald Wolin ABSENT: Member Paul Adrian IN ATTENDANCE: Jeffrey Kennedy and Robert Sanford, Trustees, Robert Kallien, Director of Community Development, Margaret O'Connell, Assistant Village Attorney, Dale Durfey, Village Engineer and James Bodony, Fire Chief APPROVAL OF MINUTES: REGULAR PLAN COMMISSION MEETING OF MARCH 20, 2006 Motion by Member Wolin, seconded by Member Lamalani to approve the minutes of the March 20, 2006 Regular Plan Commission meeting as written and waive the full reading thereof. VOICE VOTE: Motion Carried. UNFINISHED BUSINESS CALL TO ORDER MINUTES UNFIMSHED BUSINESS A. VILLAS OF OAK BROOK SUBDIVISION — 2901 OAK BROOK ROAD — VILLAS or OAK BROOK-2901 FINAL PLAT WITH VARIATION — 4 LOT SUBDIVISION WITH OAK 13ROOK RD VARIATION FOR PRIVATE STREET - FP w /VAR - 4 LOT SUB Director of Community Development Kallien said that at the last meeting there were a number of issues identified by the Plan Commission and Village Engineer Durfey that were to be addressed by the applicant. It appears that a number of those issues have been resolved. Jim Flowers, agent for the owner of the property, Vito Falco, said that there were three issues remaining at the last meeting. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 1 of 24 April 17, 2006 12c They addressed the issue of the jurisdiction of the bike path with the county and have submitted their commentary to the Village Engineer; They have provided the structural engineering for the retaining walls to the Village Engineer; and They received a memo from the Village Engineer regarding some drafting changes. They have tentatively scheduled a meeting with the engineers this week to resolve any drafting changes. No one in the audience spoke in support of or in opposition to the request. Member Wolin questioned portions of Village Engineer Durfey's memorandum regarding the single and double - tiered retaining walls. He asked if there were any concerns that should be discussed relative to the retaining walls. Village Engineer Durfey responded that they are no technical engineering issues, other than the Village's concern in past subdivisions. Director of Community Development Kallien said that they wanted to know what it would look like and the applicant has provided that. Member Wolin questioned Village Engineer Durfey's comments about the wet bottom lakes on lots 1 and 3 and the shoreline around them does not comply with the Public Works Construction Standards, which pertains to the proposed retaining wall and ground sloping areas and asked why he cannot meet the section for the non - walled areas. Jiun -Guang Lin, Project Engineer, Balsamo /Olson Engineering, 4906 Main Street, Lisle, Illinois, responded that based upon the north perimeter of the two existing ponds to the north, they propose to keep the existing slope. They have tried to maximize the flood plain compensation storage because the current slope sometimes varies from 2 to 1 to a 3 to 1 slope, Based on the Village's required typical lake section, there are two requirements that they are unable to meet. The first is that the typical section requires a minimum of 20 feet separation between the back of curb on 31St Street to where the slope begins to drop. Based on the existing conditions they probably only have 15 feet of separation. The second requirement states that when the slope starts to drop there must be a 4 to 1 slope between a certain elevation between a normal wall level and a high wall level, a six -foot wide safety ledge has to be provided which is extremely flat. The existing slope is only 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 at some points. If they try to comply with the typical lake section as specified, they are going to lose a portion of the provided flood plain compensation storage, which would not make it work, engineering wise. However, they have looked into the regrading of the area. After a discussion with Village Engineer Durfey, they are going to revise the grading along the north shore area to create a uniform. 4 to 1 slope along the entire frontage of the property from where the existing slope is, VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 2 of 24 April 17, 2006 which at some points is 2 to 1 and 3 to 1. This 4 to 1 slope will be uniform along the entire frontage of the property with exception to area of the proposed road, which will enhance the safety concerns. Creating a 4 to 1 slope, as proposed, will make the slope less deep, and will push the normal water level location further south from the relocated bike path. Member Wolin questioned although they partially addressed the problem and since they did not completely meet all of the cross section requirements, were there any safety concerns. Village Engineer Durfey responded that the standard is an underwater safety ledge. The entire lake has an underwater safety ledge because it is no deeper than 3 feet, anywhere in the lake, The standard also has an above water safety ledge for a populated area with a lot of children; so if they fell down with a 4 to 1 slope, they would hit a relatively flat area before they even went into the water. This piece of property is very largely impacted with approximately 50% flood plain across the entire site, It has steep physical features to try to manage and the revised plan seems to be a decent compromise. Member Adrian confirmed that he had reviewed the case file and read the minutes of the last meeting. Motion by Member Lamalani, seconded by Member Saiyed to recommend approval of the Final Plat of Subdivision as revised, the variations and waivers to the Subdivision Regulations as requested, subject to the following conditions: 1. The revised plan is to include the 4 to 1 slope changes; 2. Address the issues contained in Village Engineer Durfey's memo on pages 9 -9.c. of the case file; and 3. Final engineering approval. ROLL CALL VOTE: Ayes: 7 — Members Adrian, lyer, Lalmalani, Saiyed, Tropinski, Wolin and Chairwoman Payovich. Nays: 0 — None. Motion Carried. B. BRITTWOOD CREEK LLC — APPROXIMATELY 57 ACRES OF VACANT cx, ORDI: 83 PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF 35TH STREET AND EAST OF ROUTE AND 35TH - MAP 81 MAP AMENDMENT — TO REZONE THE WESTERN PORTION OF AMEND AND PRELIMINARY THE PROPERTY FROM R -1 TO R -2; PRELIMINARY PLAT — 35 -LOT PLAT WITH SUBDIVISION WITH VARIATIONS TO SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS — VARIATIONS - 35 -LOT SECTIONS 14 -6 -2, 14� -6 -3 14 -6 -3D, 14 -6 -3E, 14 -6 -3F, 14 --6 -3G AND 14 -6 -3L SUBDIVISION VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 3 of 24 April 17, 2006 V'---LA Chairwoman Payovich announced that when the last meeting ended those who had signed in to speak would be heard first at this meeting. Frank Krohn, 1010 35th Street, said that when Mr. Callaghan originally presented his project to the residents last August, he said that when the people on 35th Street purchased their property there were no guarantees that the 57 -acre parcel would never be developed. He was right; but they did know that the property was zoned R- 1 and had a reasonable expectation that it would stay R -1 and bought their properties on that basis. He said he would turn the statement back on Mr. Callaghan and tell him that when he contracted to buy the 57 acres, there was no guarantee that he would be able to get any zoning changes, and knowingly and voluntarily took the risk. Mr. Callaghan has a big problem with 35th Street and it is a problem that he cannot remedy. He submitted that all developments in Oak Brook in the last 30 years that were ranted zoning changes for greater zoning density all had primary road access. 35t Street is not a primary road or a secondary road; it is probably a tertiary road. It is an 18 -foot wide, tree lined country road that services horses as well as vehicles. The road epitomizes what makes Oak Brook unique. He asked if it makes sense to allow Mr. Callaghan to build 40% more homes than he would be entitled to without a zoning change, further stress out 35th Street and forever change the character of it and the surrounding area. He believes the 35th Street issue alone is enough to reject the petition. Ray Allen, 1017 35th Street, said that he agreed with Frank Krohn's statements. He said that he was one of the coordinators that went around and collected signatures. 50 -70 signatures came in by fax or mail. He called on homes, not in his area, but those that were east of York Road. He said that it took a long time to get 1100+ signatures and all of the people were very sincere. None of the people east of York Road were personal friends, but volunteered to sign the petition. They were heart fully sought and heart fully signed. Tony DiCanio, 3617 Madison, a 20 -year resident of Fullersburg. The 40th president and a native Illinoisan was known to some as the "The Lipper," but most as a great communicator. When President Ronald Reagan was repeatedly asked the same questions repeatedly, he would answer in frustration, "here we go again." So here we go again, a variance is a variance is a variance. Respectfully, he said he reminded the Plan Commission that their responsibility was to the citizens of Oak Brook, not to an elected official or someone with a special financial interest and please deny the petitioners request. Ernest Huntzinger, 2 Oak Brook Club Drive, declared his opposition to the proposal. The character of 35th Street and the surrounding environs are lovely and he would like to see that maintained at the present zoning. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOD Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 4 of 24 April 17, 2006 M---o Mary Ann Kaufman, 3615 Adams Road, she lives on two 2 '/2 acre lots and moved here for the school system. She does not want to see any zoning changes occur. Based on all the meetings it does not seem that anyone will benefit from it, not the school system or fire department, police department, or the village with increased tax money. It is obvious to her that no one will benefit, but one person. With over 1000 petitions and knowing how the community feels about such zoning changes, she truly believes the change should not occur in this area. Bob Lindgren, 1020 Birchwood Road, said that he has spoken many times before, but wanted to reiterate some points. He said that the development of this parcel within the existing zoning, in his opinion, would max out the impact on the existing environment. The Fullersburg Woods area cannot take anything more than what is contemplated with the existing zoning. He agreed with Frank Krohn's comments and added that as a citizen he was concerned that we have seemed to tolerate a strategy toward the zoning laws, which is one of negotiation. The zoning ordinance that has been enacted by the village becomes an opening point in a negotiation process, rather than the law of the village that is expected to be complied with. He urged the Plan Commission to treat the zoning as what it is, not as an opening point in a negotiation process. Connie Keller, 1155 35th Street, said that she grew up and has always lived just down the street. She has spoken before and is heartened that so many other people feel the same way she does about the Fullersburg Woods. She hoped that the Plan Commission and Board of Trustees appreciate the wooded character of Oak Brook. She did not think there was any hardship. The property can be built with 2 acre zoning in place. The berming and all that the builder has proposed would protect him from Route 83. If the lots are planned with nature and the watershed in mind, he could make a nice development out of the 2 -acre zoning. She is in favor of the 2 acre zoning and not widening the street to keep it the equestrian wonderful spot that it is and has always been the reputation of Oak Brook. Terry O'Malley, President of the Breakenridge Farm Association, said that he represents over 14 members that are at this meeting. They have had 3 issues put before their association. One was the access road, they had asked for that to be responded to at the last meeting, and was not and still has not been responded to. Secondly, there were 3 lots subdivided by Basic Life in Breakenridge Farms that were 5.99 acres according to their records, and one of the lots that is out of compliance is the Basic Life property. When the other 2 properties were sold, they were 2 acres and Basic Life kept the other property, which is adjacent to the 57 acres. The community has met on this issue several times and he represents them overall. The key is that they are concerned about the traffic issues and wanted to express that as well. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 5 of 24 April 17, 2006 VA Sandra Martin, Superintendent for Butler School District 53 stated that they have been studying the issue and believe that it is a village concern. As the school district, they have evaluated the potential impact on the school system. They want to keep their standards very high and the quality of service as high as it has always been and continue to improve that. It is probably in the best interest of the school district to accept as few students as possible from this development. Of course, they would educate all of those that go there. Mary Ann Karris, 3110 35th Street said that she has lived in the Village since 1970 and raised two children here. Through very good luck, they have moved to 35th Street and it is the gem of the community and the neighborhood. Their lovely 35th Street, with the equestrian and the narrow road is truly Oak Brook. She asked that the zoning not be changed for economic advantages to a contractor. She believes he could do very well under the present laws. They have obeyed the laws for 35 years and feels he could also obey them. Frederick Cappetta, Cappetta & Associates, Ltd., attorney represented several objectors to the proposed development. He represents the following: • The owners of more than 20% of the frontage immediately adjoining the subject property and 20% of the owners with frontage directly opposite the subject property; there are 4 owners in that category. • Every homeowner whose private property immediately adjoins the 57 -acre IBLP property; there are 10 homeowners in that category. • Every improved lot owner on 35th Street; there are 12 people in that category. • The balance of all of the homes, with the exception of 1 in Breakenridge Farm, that have not previously been listed, there are 18 people in that category. The sole lot owner in Breakenridge not represented is IBLP, who happens to own a lot within the subdivision is a co- petitioner. • Except for three legal non - conforming lots and 6 vacant parcels, every other homeowner located in the R -1 District that we are talking about. They are listed on Exhibit F on the Citizens Response. + Breakenridge Woods Homeowners Association and the Fullersburg Woods Area Association, which are the only homeowner associations in the subject R -1 area. • The Preserve Oak Brook organization, which conducted the opposition petition, which resulted in 1072 signatures and are included in the records. It includes 105 signatures from Hunter Trails and Old Oak Brook. 237 signatures from the R -2 Section of Fullersburg and 730 not from Fullersburg, but from other subdivisions in Oak Brook, including, Brook Forest, Ginger Creek, Midwest Club, Oak Brook Club, Saddle Brook, Trinity Lakes, York Woods, Briarwood Lakes, Covington Court, Yorkshire Woods, Wood Glen, Forest Gate, Timber Trails and Chateau Woods. VILLAGE OF OAK. BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 6 of 24 April 17, 2006 The opposition petition from the first petition filing remains valid and opposes not only the Callaghan September 2005 filing, but also the November 2005 and steadfastly remains opposed to the February 2006 filing. The petition signed by the 1100 people prays that the R -1, 2 -acre residential zoning remain and that the Village requires compliance to its current law without variance, amendment or change of any building, zoning or subdivision ordinance. Although it was signed over a period of time going back to the first petition, what it asks for continues to stand in opposition to what is pending before the Plan Commission. At the last meeting, he was openly opposed to the manner in which the Plan Commission meeting was conducted. The object of the Plan Commission is to render due process and conduct deliberative process that provides a full airing of the issues and a fair and dust result. His concern was that after hearing the petitioner present his position the Plan Commission concluded that there was insufficient time for the objectors to put their case on, so it was deferred to this meeting; that made sense. What did not make sense was the question and answer session and a free ranging discussion presided over by the petitioner trying to solidify his points. It would be much the same as jury- beginning deliberations after the prosecution makes its case, but before the defense makes its case. It is inappropriate in our system to begin deliberations before the issues have been joined and defined and the parties have stated their positions. It would be wholly inappropriate in a criminal case to spend time having the jury cross examine someone and determine who the owner of a particular weapon was when it might later turn out that the weapon was not part of the crime. So, all of the deliberative process where conclusions are come to before both sides of the story have been heard is inappropriate. It pollutes the well of thought and prevents us from coming to an open and honest decision. As a result, in our system, deliberation should not begin until the parties have made their argument. Because the proceedings went a bit awry, he took a few things out of order before beginning the principal thrust of his argument. The issue of Exhibit B was part of the Citizens Request. The question was asked as to how many units could be placed on the property. The answer is simple and irrefutable, but easy to cloud. The answer to the question is that you can only build 23 lots on 57.8 acres, unless the Village of Oak Brook gives some concession. Of the 57 acres, roads and water detention consume some of the area. If the Village approves a private road, then you can get more lots. The issue can be argued all kinds of ways, but the fact is that 23 homes can be built on this site and from his point of view, that is the starting point and his concern. The developer showed a slide and made it seem as if he was doing something that was not a material change. He took R-1, R -2 and R -3 property and averaged it together, then said he was not doing much different from what is already there. What already is there is an R -1 district, not R -2 and R -3, but this property, which is all R -1. On Exhibit F, it is listed from the Assessors records, that the average lot size in this area is 2.4 acres. That is not the minimum requirement and specified he was not suggested that be the requirement, but he does not want the facts confused or lose site of what happens to VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 7 of 24 April 17, 2006 &V a/ I exist when we let the public follow the rules of Oak Brook and how they develop this property. The people have invested millions to build their properties He said that the current February filing has several differences from their previous filing. The new filing has been modified to address some of the issues about which they were previously concerned. The project name has been changed and the road leading to the adjacent subdivision has been eliminated. The September filing provided for 46 buildable lots. The November 15th filing provided a reduction of lots to 44. The latest filing suggests, preliminarily that they are seeking 35 lots, although the structure of the request would permit a later increase to 44 lots without a variance. If the zoning request was granted based upon this preliminary plat of 35 lots, they could come in and file a final plat for 44 lots and the village would have no right to object, nor would they because the land would be zoned l acre zoning. The plat is apparently 35 lots, but he is not sure it is truly 35. Although, perhaps not intentional, a very significant flaw in the process occurred by the way that the village treated its resident objectors to this development. Callaghan's September filing was flawed in innumerable ways, many of which were reiterated in the Citizens Response. It did not take long before the clay feet of Callaghan became apparent even to Callaghan, so he came forward with a November filing. The village should have required an up or down vote on his September petition, before proceeding with his second petition. Instead of requiring Callaghan to face an up down vote on his September filing, the Village permitted his November filing to take the place of the September filing, which had been waiting in line. As required, they responded in November, and appeared before the Plan Commission, which voted and he suffered a unanimous defeat. The matter should have then gone before the Zoning Board of Appeals and the Village and that should have been the end of the matter; but this friend of the Village gets to file again in February, and we are referred again to the Plan Commission with a third inappropriate plan. The village is abusing the process, by requiring the opponents of Callaghan to respond three times to a petition of the developer. The citizens are entitled to an up or down vote on these matters. It becomes extremely costly for these objectors to hire professional people, lawyers and other experts, to speak. It has cost a great deal of money. It may cost quite a bit to the developer but he has a $35 million property. He has a business venture to spend $100,000- 200,000 on lawyers and engineers; it is part of the process and part of the profit to be made on that $35 million. However, the lady who enjoyed her equestrian road has no potential profit; she only has her property. For these people to come up with that kind of money. Hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend these things is really a heavy demand to put upon the residents of this community. All the residents he represents are in favor of development. They know it is in the best interest of their community to have all the land on the tax rolls as its highest and best use. They favor the development of office buildings on 22nd Street; and additional stores and parking facilities at the magnificent shopping mall. They are VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 8 of 24 April 17, 2006 pleased with the R -4 development of Saddle Brook; the R -3 developments of Midwest Club, Trinity Lakes; the R -2 developments of Hunter Trails, Old Oak Brook and the eastern portion of Fullersburg. What they oppose is the adulteration of zoning. They oppose a bowling alley adjacent to Christ Church, or an office building in Breakenridge. They oppose taking the last building sites of the most lush R -1 lot in the Village and converting them to R -2 for the economic benefit of an owner who has already received millions of dollars of consideration for the loss of access. He should not now be again compensated by increasing density to make up for access purchased from them for condemnation. They are not anti - development; they are however opposed to helter- skelter scattered and spot zoning to please economic whims of a developer. Forty of the current residents in the R -1 District, listed on Schedule F -1, developed $40 million of real estate in the R -1 District with $200 million of single - family dwellings in this district. They have invested heavily in Oak Brook and look forward to others who will likewise invest in Oak Brook. They are impressed with the amount of $35 million that the developer is supposed to pay for land in the historic Oak Brook estate area. They look forward to all of the land after 13 years to be put back on the tax rolls where it deserves to be. The 207 acres in the R -1 District in Fullersburg has 53 scattered sites available for 2 -acre development. 80 acres have already been improved and the final 34.7 acres of the 207 acres is before the Plan Commission. The developer wants to place a new and different use on the oldest, most established, estate district of the community. The hundreds of millions of dollars invested and given by these residents in reliance upon the zoning and integrity of the community is now being second- guessed and challenged. Virtually every adjacent property owner as well as every property owner in the entire quadrant continues to object to the Village's approval of the petitioner's new proposal. Callaghan's proposal of February 15, 2006 requested 35 homes sites be approved on 34 acres of the 57 acre site; that is approximately 12 more sites, which is 52% more than the zoning would permit. It is better than the prior request when they wanted 100% more. A short drive down Adams Road and 35th Street establishes that the area is very special to Oak Brook. The fact that so much of this area has been developed over the years with 2 -acre zoning and is likely to continue causes one to ask why anyone would allow 52% more homes than current zoning allows to be created on this dead end street. The developers own traffic study of November 14, 2005 provides the data that says, "the proposed 35- unit development will cause over 139 more car trips per day on 35`x' Street than what would be expected in an R -1 development." That is a 52% increase over existing zoning. In his Exhibit D.2, there seems to be a variance between that and the traffic report filed in February 2006, which would lead someone to believe that there was no increase in traffic in this proposal. Compared to the November traffic study indicates that 35 units will add 139 more trips per day. The people that live there and have made substantial investments over the years based upon 2 -acre zoning believe the Village of Oak Brook has every reason not to allow the extra homes. These residents believe the reason they elected the officials is to protect their special VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 9 of 24 April 17, 2006 place from needlessly being overdeveloped. To allow extra traffic trips on these rural streets, or village services for an extra 12 homes, rather than to allow the historic development that has and will continue in this quadrant is a tremendous mistake. The property is in a location where the 2 -acre zoning works and substantial homes with maximum green space has resulted in a large tax base with reduced demand per acre for villages services as well as fewer trips per day has evolved and serves the area quite nicely. If the rezoning is not allowed the property will be developed consistent with the historic density of the quadrant without the undue burden of additional homes, children in the schools, or demand on the village services. The existing residents of the approved 79 acres have and continue to have the right to expect the last 34 acres to be developed with the same standards that was applied to the first 150 acres of the development. The existing residents have a bond with the village and a vested right to expect that the unique rural character of the area will not be arbitrarily changed and that they have a rightful expectation to have the property developed in with the village's zoning plan. They have purchased and developed the land they live on because of the unique qualities of the landscape of the village. The R -1 district involved is one of the oldest in Oak Brook and the site of some of the most luxurious homes in Oak Brook. All the property in this R -1 district including the 34 subject acres are wooded, rolling and with changes in elevation up to 75 feet. The developer's inference that other properties in the village is or has been permitted to be changed to a more dense use is misleading. The examples cited Forest Gate, Hunter Trails, Old Oak Brook and Trinity Lakes are all much different than the subject property because the other parcels have access to roads that support a more dense use. Forest Gate, Hunter Trails and Trinity Lakes are all serviced by a 4 -lane arterial road with a stop light at the entrance and a an additional access point at secondary or local thoroughfare; and Old Oak Brook is serviced by a major thoroughfare. The subject property however is tucked away on a local dead end street to service it. The dead end street enhances the ambiance of the 2 -acre zoning, but cannot support a more dense use. The petitioner continues to assert that 2 -acre zoning along Route 83 does not exist because of the influence of Route 83, with the 65,000 daily traffic count, is misleading, because all but one of the involved communities they referenced do not have 2 -acre zoning anywhere in their community. Those communities do not have 2 -acre zoning because of Route 83, but because their ordinance does not have 2 -acre zoning, so they could not have it, even away from Route 83. Adoption of the proposal would result in the village's school district suffering an increase of 50% of the burden for schools, traffic and police in exchange for no increase in tax revenue, over that which would be received if the property remained R -1. In his Exhibit C.2 reviews the Callaghan financial impact study, which finds that the assessed valuation as it is being proposed is not substantially different from the assessed valuation if it is left alone. There is no increase in revenue to the village by changing the zoning. The developer's impact study attempts to demonstrate to the reader that this development was economically beneficial to Oak Brook. If the proper question were asked, there would be a different outcome; such as, if the rezoning were not granted and developed with 2- VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 10 of 24 April 17, 2006 acre zoning how would that economic result compare with the proposed developments economic impact. Fewer homes similar to the Breakenridge Farm development would equal the tax base with less demand on village services, resulting in a significantly better result to the community and surrounding neighborhood. The traffic in an already slightly strained rural area would greatly worsen by the proposed 35 homes versus the currently allowed 23. Traffic issues would not only impact 25"' Street, but on Adams, Spring, Madison, Ogden and York roads. The residents love their 18 -foot pavement and country lane and local dead end street. It cannot tolerate anymore than the 23 that the zoning presumes. There is no hardship to the owner or developer; they bought the land with this zoning, unconditionally. There is no economic impact or hardship other than you get more lots if you get more density you get more money. They obviously believe they can make more profit from more lots and no demonstrative hardship befalls them if they are required to develop under the existing laws that the residents developed under from 1966 through today; and they did not have any trouble developing their property and it is worth millions of dollars. The most recent filing did not address any of the significant engineering or habitat issues previously raised by the objectors. The developer repeatedly stated that he would not remove any trees. Subsequent in his written project summary under the title of conservation he said that if any existing trees with diameters of 10- inches and larger require removal due to construction, they would replace them. In February 15, 2006 he said that he is committed to an environmentally friendly, residential development to maintain and enhance as feasibly possible and that the diameters of 12- inches or larger. So increasing the preservation size from any tree to 10- inches, to 12- inches, and introducing the term feasibly possible, sounds like a subtle change and a movement away from an environmentally friendly development. The developer could have demonstrated his alleged environmental friendly position by simply superimposing the tree map over the preliminary plat. The identification of the trees by GPS can be carried out at little or no cost to the developer. This would have given a very accurate relationship of those trees to the proposed roads, reservoirs and individual lots and enhancing the developer's credibility as a conservation conscious builder. It appears that he has planned reservoirs over significant tree stands, while they have repackaged the material in their most recent petition; the heart of their proposal remains unchanged. His expectation of zoning changes for the subject property because other parcels in the village have had zoning changes is not appropriate, is not the law and is not what should be approved. The Plan Commission is not obligated to change this zoning because some other property may have been changed. The more dense parcels suggested by the petitioner each have road access and other appropriate conditions that permit density. The mere existence of dense zoning elsewhere in R -2 and R -2 zoning district does not create a right of expectation that dense zoning must or should be approved as a matter of right or fairness be granted to the developer. A VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 11 of 24 April 17, 2006 zoning concession does not have to be given to the developer. This is a legislative decision. The subject property is not an appropriate candidate for a more dense zoning. The school board attorney presented written information that the proposal would cost the school district $2.5 millions more than what would be spent if developed under current zoning. The current scaled down proposal will still cost the school district more than the current zoning would For what reason would we want to increase the burden on the fine school district. What is in it for the residents of Oak Brook; and why would they want to make it more burdensome on the school. The superintendent said that she would educate whoever would be sent to the school, but doesn't the village have a responsibility to give the school what was planned and not what is unnecessarily increased. All of the additional expense to the village and for what reason; there will not be any increased revenues and raises safety issues; irresolvable traffic issues, school issues, and they have trivialized concerns for the creek by scrubbing the land before studying the environmental issues. Using Callaghan's financial figures, the proposal is a bad deal for Oak Brook. His experts have opined in writing the factors that he has listed in his exhibit, and they are available to answer any questions. He asked the Plan Commission take into the consideration the objectors concerns when reviewing the materials provided. They filed an 18 -page Citizens Response, includi% his exhibits A through H. The witnesses testified by oral argument on June 16t , and a written copy was provided to the Village; his oral argument of January 30"' along with the written copy; his oral argument at this meeting, which can be provided to the Village and he would like included with the record. The factors that were presented this evening and opined to by their experts and his supplemental C -2 and D--2 exhibits, which are slightly different than the originals, because the petition has changed, as well as all previously submitted exhibits that have not changed. The third petition does not render the previous documents invalid, except that the name and access points are moot issues. The density objection remains consistent and is applicable to the petition filed and as amended. Although he alleges to meet the standards in the filing, he has failed to do so. The applicant does not have a vested right to zoning change because other parcels of property have zoning that is different. There mere existence of zoning elsewhere, near or far, does not create a right or expectation that similar zoning should as a matter of right or fairness to be granted and the village has no obligation to grant the developers request. Changes in zoning do occur, and the process is set up so that we, as well as future generations can adjust land use and utility to fit the time. When the planners designed Oak Brook, a unique community was designed for that time and that design continues to be the cornerstone of Oak Brook's appeal today. The design continues to be quite relevant. If it was not relevant, it ought to be changed; but it is relevant and suitable today. The village has an absolute right to deny the developers proposal without fear of legal reversal. The village has its absolute right to maintain its vision and is not required to change its standards to VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 12 of 24 April 17, 2006 acclimate to standards of other nearby villages, other subdivisions, or other ideas of other developers. Zoning is the principal feature that distinguishes Oak Brook from adjacent communities. From the summary of the final paragraph of the Oak Brook Comprehensive Plan on page 43, he said that, "As a community the Village of Oak Brook is nearing its maximum developable ability. Care must now be taken to avoid higher density land use that might be a deterrent to the genteel, rural atmosphere of the village. Careful planning will allow Oak Brook to maintain its reputation as a trend setter for the entire DuPage County Area." Why wouldn't the Village follow its magnificent plan that has brought it to where it is today? On behalf of the respondent - objectors, they requested that the Village of Oak Brook deny the petitioners request for any zoning relief and instead allow the petitioner to develop the property in accord with the existing zoning, which denial by the Village after a fair hearing is its absolute right. Thomas Volini, 3704 Madison, said that there is a lot of feeling of what Mr. Cappetta said in his facts. The surrounding residents view these issues as being in it all together. They view the Plan Commission as their friends and upholders of the zoning ordinance. The practicality of the approach of the neighbors is evidenced in the body of the petition, which encourages the development of this property to be consistent with its zoning, but does not discourage the development of the property. It is not a question of personality. There is a fine developer, with a fine attorney who has been a friend for years, but the hardship argument does not wash with previous condemnation proceedings with the access issues having been determined a long time ago. The strict 2 -acre lot size argument, however it was derived in connection with other Oak Brook subdivisions is subject to way too much interpretation, as to what private streets are part of lots and how lot sizes are ascertained. The facts are that no true hardship has been shown. IBLP and the developers incentive is all that is in play. Many are concerned about the precedent setting impact, because IBLP is a landowner elsewhere in the community and pulling in their horns to some degree. So there is more to play here for the future. The impact on the schools finances, traffic, is obvious and palatable. It is an ecologically sensitive area. A petition was signed, along with 1000 neighbors, thoughtfully, and they are asking the Plan Commission to do what it did before, uphold the zoning ordinance as it was last fall. Mr. Morrissey said that he represents Brittwood Creek, LLC, the contract purchaser of the land in question. He does not represent the Institute in Basic Life Principles. They are the owner of the property and Mr. Barth is their general counsel. The manager of the Brittwood Creek property is Daniel Callaghan, which is a limited liability company, which is the contract purchaser and hopeful developer of the property. A five- minute recess was called. The meeting resumed at 9:00 p.m. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 13 of 24 April 17, 2006 Mr. Morrissey said that there had been much discussion about School District 53, which everyone agrees and there is no question that it is an excellent school, one of the best in the state and consistently produces some of the finest students. The village has adopted an ordinance, and on Section 14 -4 -7, which guides them through the contributions to the school district. Section B of that ordinance specifically states the factors to be used for the maximum number of students and the minimum number of acres. At the last meeting, there was a slide presentation and the last 3 pages calculate what the contribution will be by using the Oak Brook ordinance. They used the .35 factors for generation of elementary school attendance and the exhibit demonstrates the contribution will be $164,957. The ordinance also has a different factor of .30 for the junior high; and the calculation for that is $161,218. They also showed the contribution made by other recent developments to the village. Kanan Court, located on Midwest Road, is a 4 -unit subdivision developed in 2004 and paid $5,602 per lot. The impact calculation under the ordinance for Brittwood Creek is $9,319, which is what has been offered and amounts to $326,175 based on 35 lots. They are sympathetic to the plight of the district, which was explained by Mr. 'Whitt regarding the Property Tax Extension Levy Act. The time gap was explained regarding when students are generated from the subdivision and when the money starts getting collected in tax revenues and the capital improvement fund. They are sympathetic to that as well, which is why Brittwood Creek made the offer that it did, which is almost twice what the last payment was for almost every development in Oak Brook, However there is a process and they are guided by the ordinance and as he understands the village's municipal law, if the school district wishes to commence a proceeding to change the ordinance, that is certainly within their right. Just as they are asking for certain consideration under the ordinance, the school district can also ask for consideration for a change under the Subdivision Regulations. As they are before the Plan Commission with this application, clearly their guidepost is the ordinance as it has been enacted and as the applicant, when they signed the affidavit at the bottom of the application has to proceed in accordance with that ordinance, regardless of where their sympathies lie. They want to clarify that they have done that and have presented physical evidence of the fiscal impact on the school district from this project. On page 55, item 8 of the Village of Oak Brook Comprehensive Plan, the general objectives are set forth, "to maintain the low- density character of the village preserve maximum open space, buffer lower density from existing higher density. Promote the aesthetic transition between residential and other land uses to promote "curvilinear and orderly street layouts." On page 58, item E.4, "Explore a variety and flexibility in new concepts of site plan." That is part of in addition to the other three stated objectives. Comments have been made regarding 35`x' Street, which is a lovely 18 -foot width street as it is presently used. However, the right of way is 73 feet. They addressed this issue earlier and the boundary line of this property, running east to west is 40 feet with a 33 -foot easement for the water main pipelines that run underneath it and just to the south. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 14 of 24 April 17, 2006 W-041 Most importantly, page 64 of the Comprehensive Plan sets in context what they are talking about at this meeting. Listening to the material that was put on it, would mean that zoning is cast in stone and should never be changed or visited and having sat through four sessions of the Plan Commission, he knows that is not the fact. There is a myriad of tasks that comes before the Plan Commission and other agencies of the village as they proceed as different issues arise. No plan is perfect, it may have been intended that way, but its implementation always takes some skill and some judgment. On page 64, item 4, in talking about the development of the property states, "vacant properties located generally south of 35"' Street and west of Adams Road, which are presently zoned residential should be developed with single family detached homes." Mr. Cappetta may not like that reference, but it is very clear they are referring to the 57 acres in question. It does not say R -1, R -2, R -3 or R -4. To look for edification as to what was the intent of the writers of this document, if you look up the page, there is a very eloquent statement of what the planning process is about; it read, "A location which may be considered for R -4 special use housing configurations or park space, the area south of Kensington Road and west of Jorie Blvd." it talks about the 34 acre site and its proximity to Route 83. So the drafters of the document gave it an explanation before providing the conclusion on the bottom of page 64 in the third full paragraph do address the Salt Creek and Ginger Creek basins and talk about the fact that Briarwood is a buffer between Route 83 and single- family detached homes to the west. This puts the discussion of this application in context. Mr. Cappetta opened his statement that he represented a large group of residents of the village and those that occupied 20% of the home sites on 35` Street and the eastern boundary of the property, but there is no zoning change on the eastern boundary of the property. There are no owners directly on the boundary of the property, because the eastern boundary of the property is not being changed. Mr. Cappetta made a point that there was some disingenuous planning with the plan for 35 lots because of the fact that between the time they asked for approval of the preliminary plat and then come back for the final plat, Mr. Callaghan would have an evil motive and would have the ability under the ordinance to change it. For the record, he stated that the developer of Brittwood Creek, Mr. Callaghan would be happy to sign a development agreement or stipulate that the number of lots would not change in the center portion. The concern is that the ordinance provides for R -1 and R -2 and nothing in between. The center portion of these lots are acre plus and the concern is that Mr. Callaghan would act unethically and would squeeze the one plus acres lots down to one acre. He said openly and publicly that is not his intent and that would not happen and the applicant would be happy to state to that fact as a condition of approval, which should remove that problem. There was a comment made about some insufficiency of some of the material and talk that there would be a 50% increase on the burden on the roads and the schools. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 15 of 24 April 17, 2006 D The contract - owner, developer and applicant was not a party to the two condemnation proceedings, one, which 15 years ago shut off the access to this property on Route 83 and has received no economic benefit from that. He was not a party to condemnation proceedings 3 or 4 years ago, which created the fifty -foot strip along Route 83 for a trail corridor and then the south 50 acres. They previously provided their view of why they believe that condemnation took place so they would not be redundant and repeat it again into the record. Mr. Callaghan is committed to the environment and the habitat. There was a point made between 10 and 12 -inch trees. The record is clear that when they amended their application this would be an environmentally friendly development. On Mr. Cappetta's exhibit, C.2 showed the financial impact of 23 lots at $2.4 million. He pointed out that page 18 and 19 of Mr. Cappetta's handout this evening, is not realistic. They do not believe that the prudent citizens of Oak Brook would line up to pay $2.3 million for a 2 -acre lot along Route 83. They believe that the references in the Comprehensive Plan clearly make Route 83 as a man -made highest and densest of uses feasible so therefore, some accommodation should be made for that. On Mr. Cappetta's exhibit D.2 he talked about 23 lots. In the record of the proceedings from the last hearing, there was testimony from the applicant that the property as presently zoned with R -1 zoning, 2 -acre lots, could be developed today as 27 lots. That is still their position and they do not agree with Mr. Cappetta's assertion that it would be 23 lots as currently zoned. There were testimony and staff comments on the ability to develop 27 lots. Their application request is really the difference between 27 and 35 lots, which is a very important point to be kept in mind. In The Doings newspaper on Thursday, September 29, 2005, an advertisement appeared on page 27 that was sponsored by Citizens to Preserve Oak Brook and the Fullersburg Woods Association. The third full paragraph of the ad concludes what the zoning issues that exist that would cause the village government to allow the construction of 46 homes on a property currently zoned for 26. The groups, which are represented by Mr. Cappetta, as some of his 1000 clients, stated in the ad that the property was suitable to develop 26 homes. They believe that it is 27 and that there was staff testimony to that as well, which is the position of the developer that with no changes in the zoning, 27, R -1, 2 -acre lots could fit on that site. Scott Miller, Allan Kracower and Associates, said that he was a certified planner with the American Institute of Certified Planners and has worked on this project for quite a while When planning you cannot first look at a project in a vacuum; to just look at the specific property and determine if you can do R -1 zoning that would not be a problem. The fact is that you have to look at the property surrounding it, the land use, and the intensity of those uses. There are 1-acre lots to the north, 2 -acre lots to the east, forest preserve to the south and over time, Route 83 has become a VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 16 of 24 April 17, 2006 six -lane limited access highway. Normally in planning practice, they will see what a village's highest intensity use allows and put that along Route 83. In this case, it would be R -4, which would be a compatible use with it. Based on what is to the north and east, R -4 would not be compatible for this site. They then looked at R -3 along Route 83 to see if some sort of transitional use could be accomplished within their own property. Based on village and resident comments, they determined that would not be possible as well. They were then down to the R -2 zoning. They feel that the R -2 zoning is very compatible. To the north is R -2, 1 -acre lots, surrounding the R -1, 2 -acre lots to the east is R -2 as well and determined that R -2 is a compatible use for this site. However, they took it one -step further and looked at the use in Breakenridge Farms in more detail and it is a high end, luxury home, large estate type community so they felt it should be buffered with a third of their property with R -1 as well. This would ensure that the homes that exist there are forever surrounded by R -1 and R -1 type housing. That enabled them to transition on their own property from those 2 -acre lots down to the slightly higher R -2 intensity lots along Route 83. It is not only done just to increase the density, the majority of the R -2 lots are 11 /2 acre lots give or take a little bit of area. As Mr. Cappetta said, if they wanted to, they could squeeze in more lots in there, but that is not their desire. They want to try to put as many large lots on the property as possible while still making it an economically viable piece of property. The other reason they are seeking the R -2 zoning is for buffering of the sound from Route 83. If there are a few more homes, and they are talking about 7 or 8 total, it puts the homes a little closer together along Route 83 that acts as a permanent sound buffer, not only for eastern half of their property, but also for Breakenridge Farms to the east. As history shows, the traffic along Route 83 is only going to increase over time and the noise will increase along with that, To allow a few extra homes along Route 83 will help buffer the homes today down the road as the traffic increases, which is the theory from going from the 2 -acre lots, transitioning to 1' /2 acre and down to 1 -acre lots along Route 83. Michael Marouse, President of Marouse and Company, an appraiser for 25 years, has done work for the village and has previously testified on this matter. Part of the analysis done by Mr. Cappetta looked at 23 lots and the 27 -lot issue has already been addressed. However, Route 83 has a lot of traffic with 65,000 cars a day, and everyone is aware of the trend of development, including the plans that were proposed across Route 83. Although it is his understanding those plans are now no longer going forward, it is an indication of what can happen with a 9 -story building along 35`h and Route 83 in the adjoining town. It is the trend of development. In his analysis, in fairly consistent pricing, the 1 -acre lots would be plus or minus $900,000 to $1 million along Route 83. The mid -level lots of 1' /z acres approximately $1.4 -- 1.5 million, and the 2+ acre lots on the eastern end development and most proximate to Breakenridge Farm would be $2 -- 2.4 million. There is no question that the Fullersburg Woods area is one of the most delightful, desirable areas to live in the entire Chicagoland area. However, from a practicality VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 17 of 24 April 17, 2006 Q' look at the development, the lots along Route 83, particularly 2 acre lots, would be far less desirable, would have a lower value, a longer marketing period than lots that are farther east away from Route 83. It can be buffered with landscaping and berming, but there is buffering and sound walls along 1 -294 and it is not the same. Distance helps, no question about it. The other issue is that the market is starting to soften for high value property. In the immediate neighborhood, there are 2 properties in excess of $2.5 million that have been on the market for over 185 days. That is six months and one is closer to nine months. There was a reference in regards to page 64 of the Comprehensive Plan, which cites developed properties within their highest and best use. A 2 -acre lot along Route 83, in his opinion is not the highest economic use of a property, if used as an appraiser who uses comparable properties. If you are looking at 2 acre lots, the average price trend of development in Oak Brook, and sales of the lots along Route 83 are going to be lower than lots that are better located and are going to bring down the range, the price points and are going to increase the marketing times. All three are negative impact and inconsistent with the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Cappetta point with his analysis for assessed value, two factors that invalidate that point is that lower value land, and in his opinion a significantly smaller house and lower overall value house on a 2 -acre Route 83 lot would create a lower overall assessed value and would essentially invalidate his projections. Mr. Callaghan prepared and passed out to the members a revised density summary and different subdivisions in the village that have changed. The various Density Summary Report (page 74 case file) includes, Brittwood Creek, Old Oak Brook Hunter Trails, Fullersburg Woods, Covington Court, Brook Forest, Kanan Court, Trinity Lakes, Forest Gate and Briarwood. The chart provides the density within the developments that have been approved in the past. He realizes that 35th Street is not like 31st, Midwest Road or Meyers Road, but the particular conditions of the site and accessibility to it have been stripped away over a period of time. The private roads in Breakenridge Farms have existed and have never been given up. That particular development never came before any of the previous village boards; it was a pre- existing, county -zoned property; based upon the subdivision density, in the event that the Plan Commission would agree that this is an appropriate use for this property based on the 3 5 units. Compared to all other developments over the last 40 years, this proposal would be the least dense development ever approved. The aerial in the boardroom reminds him that the Village has high conditions and standards. In deciding on buying a 2 -acre parcel, in some instances someone may look at a 2 -acre lot and ask if first of all if the lot is maintainable. Secondly, the person is going to look at what other 2 -acre lots are available within the community. Thirdly they may ask themselves, if they have the where with all to buy a 2 -acre lot, and have the affordability to do so, would you really buy it along Route 83. He respectfully disagrees with the people that have spoken to this before those have said 2 -acre zoning there is acceptable. Some of the people that have discussed that it is reasonable, do not live on 2 -acre lots, they have lots that are less than 2 acres. If VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 18 of 24 April 17, 2006 Breakenridge Farms was before the Commission, and were not seeking any variances, 4 of the lots would be nonconforming because of the streets. He is the Chairman of the Architectural Review Committee for Ginger Creek and is well aware that over 80% of all the lots in Ginger Creek are nonconforming. When Ginger Creek was developed, the interpretation was that the street was in the gross acreage. Even though he is in the R -2 district is only 35,000 square feet, so he is far short of the acre requirement. Hunter Trails, on the eastern portion of the property was zoned R -1, R -2. Old Oak Brook was originally zoned 2 -acre lots and was all changed to R -2. Briarwood, the Park District, McDonald's campus, north Jorie Blvd, the east Fullersburg Woods area, along Spring and York Road the density increases and the zoning changes without detrimental impact to the R -1 zoning. For Mr. Cappetta to claim that the value of 2 -acre lots along Breakenridge is the same value as those along Route 83 is not possible, If 2 -acre lots are along Route 83 and are selling for less than other 2 -acre lots in Breakenridge Farms that would impact the values of other lots in town. When people buy property, they look at comparables. If 2 -acre lots are selling for less, then people are going to expect to buy 2 -acre lots everywhere in town for less. The cliche "here we go again" is understood. There are significant changes that have taken place in the village over the last 40 years. Since 1966, when Breakenridge Farms was brought into the village, with its current R -1 zoning, as well as this property, which he considers default zoning, because the comprehensive plan states to develop it as residential it does not say it is to be developed as 2 -acre lots. The Comprehensive Plans and the purpose of the zoning ordinance states when you consider properties closer to major roadways, then we should consider higher density single- family or possibly multi- family zoning. When looking at the aerial, it can be seen what other towns have done adjacent to the roadway and its highest and best use for the villages. He is not seeking anything remotely similar to what Westmont is asking for. He respects the Commission to come back before them with its position and comments rather than going forward. Being a friend of the village, which has been referred to by some, may have been a detriment to him. People have commented to him that he did a bait and switch with Forest Gate so why wouldn't he do it here. It can be confirmed by the Village Engineer that the preliminary plat that was approved for Forest Gate and the final plat that was subsequently approved, was the same. He asked Village Engineer Durfey if he recalled any changes made between the two plats. Village Engineer Durfey responded that nothing of significance had been changed. Mr. Callaghan responded that the changes were to the curves of the road. The amount of land for the houses, and the lakes and streets stayed the same. Many things are thrown out there, that are just not true. He asked that the 35 units be approved, but in the event the Commission decides not to, he would welcome some discussion of what the Commission may believe is reasonable. All the subdivisions designed in town have had some degree of negotiability. He was told 4 months ago that 35 would work, but you do not always know whom you are dealing with and VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 19 of 24 April 17, 2006 some of the opposition would say if it were revised to be 30, 33, or 37 they would support it. The problem is that the opposition and their interests is so broad that it is difficult to negotiate something when there are numerous interests that are not necessarily looking for the same thing, so it is virtually impossible. At first, he thought by developing it as Breakenridge Farm, he would be able to get 28 lots. Then he thought, if he could put 14, 1 -acre lots along Route 83, which he thought would be acceptable, reasonable and saleable with the 1 -acre lots being in Hunter Trails, then he would have been able to get another 7 lots; believing that 28 plus 7 would give him 35 lots. However, since his submission and with recalculations and discussion with Bob Kallien and Dale Durfey, the ordinance states that he must take the area of the street away, would be 27 not 28 lots. He apologized for that error. If the Commission would feel that he realizes this now and would have to go down to 34 or 33 lots in order to get the unanimous or positive majority of this Commission, he would be willing to do so. He is a member of this community and hopes to build the least dense reasonable development ever approved in this village. In regards to the trees, when he went in there to scrub it, which was really to get rid of the buckthorn, just like the forest preserves are doing, he did the same thing. He did not touch the sensitive area of the wetlands or the creek and provided a larger buffer than what is required by DuPage County. He has thought about all those things and it is not a little expense. There are 1182 trees tagged on the property, which is not an inexpensive process and is not required by the ordinance. He did it to make sure that he could save every tree reasonably possible. Mr. Morrissey said in regards to the petitions, they believe they were sincerely signed and reflect the viewpoint of those neighbors with the information that was before them at that time. They respect that and appreciate their communication. They did point out some of the technicalities of some of the petitions, but he wanted the record to be clear that they believe it is a regular and ordinary way of communication and respect the citizens that took the time to gather the petitions and to present them. They believe that is an appropriate way for a democracy to work. There are several pages reviewing the factors with their application. He reviewed them at the conclusion of their direct case and would be happy to answer any Commissioners questions. In conclusion, he referred to page 25 of the Comprehensive Plan. They do not view the 57 acres in the abstract; they view the 57 acres as part of the Fullersburg Woods area and as part of the entire village. On that page, it lists 1055 acres in the Fullersburg Forest Preserve Planning district 3. At the bottom of that page, the net density is .71 dwelling units per residential land. In their presentation at the last meeting, a chart was included that points out the comparison of Fullersburg Woods lot areas to the Brittwood Creek proposal, and they gave Fullersburg a credit of .741 as the units per acre; and the proposed development being asked for approval is .654, so they think it is entirely consistent with the plan. They ask that the VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 20 of 24 April 17, 2006 Commission provide guidance to the applicant on procedure and keep in mind the spirit and intent of the words in the Comprehensive Plan. Chairwoman Payovich noted before the presentation of the LaSalle Factors by the attorneys, there were 2 comments that were made, which she said needed to be addressed. Mr. DiCanio made a comment about the Plan Commission being liable to elected officials. She stated to him, as well as others in the audience, that she personally has not been contacted by any elected official in any way, on this particular issue, and would speak the same for any of the Commissioners. Although, some may not like their decisions on some of the issues, those decisions have been reached on their own with guidance by the Village Attorney and no guidance by anyone else. Mr. Cappetta also made a comment that the last meeting went a bit awry. The Rules of Procedure for the Plan Commission, on page 8 states, "that at any time during the process, Commissioners may question the witnesses." She has particularly guided the Commissioners away from doing this in the interest of time so that attorneys and residents would have the time to snake their comments. The time they took after Mr. Morrissey's presentation was not in any way meant to be a deliberation. They were merely asking questions and Mr. Cappetta was probably able to use that as part of his presentation at this meeting. There was no reason to think that was part of a deliberation. Chairwoman Payovich asked Attorney Cappetta to review the LaSalle factors. Mr. Cappetta said that they have presented extensive discussion of the LaSalle factors in the First Citizens Response and at this meeting, a copy of the LaSalle Factors was provided in the handout. 1. The proposed development will adversely change the character of the neighborhood. 2. The proposed zoning amendment does not promote the health, safety, morals or general welfare of the public 3. The proposed use does not represent an appropriate or suitable use of the 57- acre tract, since 42 lots covering 79 acres that share the R -1 district are already developed as 2 -acre zoning. 4. There is no gain to the public other than construction which will occur with or without the proposal 5. The length of time the existing zoning has remained unimproved, considered in the context of land development is the result of the owners choice and not the result of any other impact. 6. The Oak Brook Comprehensive Plan unequivocally describes the subject property to be and remain R -1. Much discussion has been made about the plan. Part of the plan includes a map and on the map it is clearly shown in District 3, the subject property is listed as R -1. While it was not mentioned, VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 21 of 24 April 17, 2006 the map shows it to be R -1 property. 7. There is a high demand for low- density estate type residential homes, which is the current zoning in the area surrounding the subject property. 8. The existing use of nearby property that should be given the greatest weight is the adjacent property, which is inextricably tied to the subject property. The adjacent property is the existing R -1, 207 acres of R -1 property that appears in exhibit 7. It is not what is across town, not what is in the R -2 or R -3, but this R -1 district. 9. If the subject property is allowed to become more dense, the value of adjacent property will become somewhat reduced. If 2 -acre zoning is maintained on the subject property, the adjacent property will remain very valuable. 10. The value of property is not being diminished at all by the current zoning. There is nothing impairing the value because of the way the property is zoned and it is going to stay valuable property. The testimony they have given supports the factors as he has restated them. Mr. Morrissey responded to the La Salle Factors as follows: • They do not ignore Hunter Trails is to the north of 35"' Street is in the R- 2 district and has one acre lots, which is located 18 feet across the dedicated right of way for 35th Street. To the south is Birchwood, Pine, Cheval Lane and is also R -2. They are asking the obvious. Route 83 1s a major highway. It is man created and the highest density use of land feasible, with 3 lanes in each direction. Common sense and other zoning in the village would suggest that Hunter Trails being 1 -acre lots across Route 83 would be a perfect illustration of why a one acre lot is an appropriate extension of that zoning. • Testimony has been provided from Mr. Marouse about the impact from this development. They do not believe there will be any diminishment of property value. In response to the threat of litigation and in the spirit of being good neighbors, the name of the development was changed. In response Mr. O'Ma.11ey's complaint of the emergency access through Breakenridge Farms, even though there was testimony given that it was to the public benefit of the western portion of Breakenridge Farms, it was removed. • They believe this property is suitable for this development and there is a market for the 2 -acre sites next to Breakenridge Fanns. Mr. Callaghan will stipulate that there will not be an increase to the number of lots. • This development is the lowest density development proposed in the village. The 14 lots along Route 83 are compatible with Hunter Trails. • There has been talk about the 1100 acres that comprises Fullersburg. Then look at the 57 acres in isolation and separated from everything else in the village to retain the R -1 zoning. When it is convenient to look at VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 22 of 24 April 17, 2006 a larger panorama of that then we are to consider other factors in the neighborhood so they will trust the good judgment of the Commissioners to balance all of that in reviewing the application. • The existing uses and zoning of nearby property has been discussed extensively. It is compatible with Hunter Trails and Old Oak Brook and Birchwood Lane. Reference was made regarding 35th Street west of Route 83. The north side is Oak Brook and the development activities that are going on the south side of 35th Street are troubling to everyone given the density and type of use. • The proposal provides an unfettered commitment to single- family residential development, not multi- family, which they believe is in the public good and welfare; and removes the uncertainty as to how the property will be developed. • The development will be environmentally friendly development and will be essential to maintain the value of those lots as well. • If they could find another access point they would do it, but do not have one. They were not parties to the two prior condemnation actions. There were different public interests that were addressed in those issues. They are dealing with the issues as they find it and it has been offered in prior testimony to restrict the speed of construction traffic. If the village would decide at some point in the future that improvements were needed on 35th Street, he would be willing to sit down in good faith and agree to his pro rata share of improvements, should that event ever occur. The road is adequate as it exists and they have provided undisputed testimony to that effect. There is also a group of standards for variations that they have been addressed in writing. This developer has not created the circumstances that exist. They will provide the requirements for stormwater and there is not another 57 -acre parcel with these sets of circumstances in the village. He briefly reviewed those standards. The applicant has not asked for relief for hardship. They have asked for it to be viewed as the entire Fullersburg Woods area and there is a public benefit by removing the uncertainty about how it will be used. It will be back on the tax roles and committed to single - family consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. Chairwoman Payovich asked the Commissioners to have any questions ready for the next meeting. At that time, it would be the Commissioners turn to review all the issues and come up with a fair and balanced decision. Member Wolin asked if the final decision would be made on the LaSalle factors. There is much material and asked that the applicant and Mr. Cappetta provide their latest complete version of the LaSalle factors as they see it so that it would be easier to review. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 23 of 24 April 17, 2006 Assistant AtIormey O'Connell said that it makes sense as long it is provided prior to the meeting for review. The response should be made in summary form and limited to the LaSalle factors as adopted by the village. The document is to be prepared and submitted to staff by April 28, 2006. Director of Community Development Kallien commented that the LaSalle Factors is what is used to address the zoning map amendment. Relative to the Subdivision plat, the Subdivision Regulations would be used to review the preliminary plat. Village Engineer Durfey has gone through great lengths in his previous memorandums reviewing how the plat meets or does not meet ordinance. Member Saiyed asked who has the power to reduce the speed limit. Director of Community Development Kallien said that would be the Village Board. Member Saiyed asked about the emergency access off of Route 83. Mr. Callaghan responded they are awaiting a response from the Forest Preserve District, Village Engineer Durfey had requested the easement, because a private party cannot. If IDOT approves the plan, they would not have a problem having the emergency access off of Route 83. In the event that is not successful, they would do it on 35th Street, unless there was some reconsideration from Breakenridge Farm. Motion by Member Adrian, seconded by Member Wolin to continue the matter to the next regular meeting date VOICE VOTE: Motion carried. 5. NEW BUSINESS There was no new business to discuss. 6. OTHER BUSINESS There was no other business to discuss. 7. ADJOURNMENT: Motion by Member Wolin, seconded by Member Saiyed to adjourn the meeting at 10:15 p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried. ATTEST: _ Robert Kallien, or of Community Development Secretary VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 24 of 24 April 17, 2006 NEW BUSINESS OTHER BUSINESS ADJOURNMENT