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MINUTES OF THE JULY 16, 2007 REGULAR MEETING
OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE VILLAGE OF
OAK BROOK APPROVED AS WRITTEN ON AUGUST
20, 2007
CALL TO ORDER: CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairwoman
Payovich in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler Government Center at
7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL: ROLL CALL
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairwoman Barbara Payovich, Members Paul Adrian, Raju Iyer,
Gopal Lalmalani, Mintu Sharma and Marcia Tropinski
ABSENT: None
IN ATTENDANCE: Trustee Gerald Wolin, Robert L. Kallien, Jr., Director of
Community Development and Dale Durfey Jr., Village Engineer.
Chairwoman Payovich took a few minutes to introduce and welcome Mintu Sharma
to the Plan Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MINUTES
The June 18, 2007 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes will be presented at the next
Regular Plan Commission meeting.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS BUSINISHI;I�
T3USINESS
A. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK — TEXT AMENDMENT — REAR YARD voB - TEXT
AMEND — REAR
SETBACKS ALONG STREETS — REVIEW AND AMENDMENT OF YARD SETBACK S
APPLICABLE TEXT ALONG STREETS
Director of Community Development Kallien requested a continuance. Motion by
Member Adrian, seconded by Member Iyer to continue the hearing to the next
Regular Plan Commission Meeting. VOICE VOTE: Motion Carried.
NEW BUSINESS NEW BUSn4FSs
A. FIFTH THIRD BANCORP and InSITE QAK BROOK LIMITED FIFTH THIRD
BANCORP and
PARTNERSHIP — SPECIAL USE — DRIVE -IN BANK --1603 16`I' STREET InSITE —SU-
DRNE -IN BANK
Director of Community Development Kallien provided an overview and background
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of the request. The property is the former Private Bank that was located on the
Southwest corner of Route 83 and 16th Street. The applicant InSite Oak Brook
Limited Partnership has previously sought a text amendment to the Zoning
Ordinance to allow banks as a permitted use; a text amendment to allow a drive -in
banking facility as a special use; and a variation to install a ground sign. The
requests received a recommendation of approval from the Plan Conu- nission and
Zoning Board of Appeals. The Village Board received the recommendations, but
held final action on the special use approval until there was a specific tenant for the
drive -in facility on the site. The Village Board will have the opportunity to make
final approval of the requests together.
The applicant, InSite Oak Brook Ltd., Partnership now has a co- applicant, Fifth
Third Bancorp and they would like to build a bank on the site with a drive -in
facility.
Scott Day, with Day and Robert Law firm, Naperville, Illinois, attorney for the joint
applicants stated that the applicants are now seeking a special use for the drive -in
facility. They are also seeking a variation that will go before the Zoning Board of
Appeals. He reviewed the surrounding zoning and history for the subject property is
located at 1603 16th Street. The properties located to the north, east and northeast of
the site is B -1 zoning and are located within the Village of Oak Brook. The property
located west and south of the site is located in the City of Oakbrook Terrace. There
is a small portion of the subject property that is also located within Oakbrook
Terrace, despite the fact that is part of the unified parcel.
The applicants are Columbia Lisle Limited Partnership, which is known as InSite
Oak Brook Limited Partnership and Fifth Third Bancorp. The owner of the property
is InSite Oak Brook Limited Partnership and the co- applicant and long -term lessee is
Fifth Third Bank.
Mr. Day reviewed the recent history of the applications. Earlier in the year the
applications were for a special use, a text amendment to permit banks as a permitted
use in the B -1 District, a text amendment to allow drive -in banking facilities as a
special use in the B -1 District. During the process of the application, the request for
the special use was withdrawn and a letter was submitted to the Village indicating
that they would bring back the request for the special use when there was a long-
term tenant, The text amendments and variation are pending before the Village
Board. When Fifth Third Bank came into the equation, they asked that the special
use be held so that the special use application could be processed for Fifth Third
Bank and hopefully, the Village Board will process the approvals for the pending
and current requests together.
He reviewed how the parcel got to be the way that it is with two- thirds of the site
being in the Village of Oak Brook and a portion located in the City of Oakbrook
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Terrace. The property was originally in a single- family residential subdivision. In
the Village archives, they found that in the early 1980's, there was a request to de-
annex a portion of the property from Oak Brook. An exhibit provided showed that
the northern portion of the lot was located in Oak Brook, a middle portion was
located in DuPage County, and the southern portion of it was located in the City of
Oakbrook Terrace. At that time, the property owner came to the Village of Oak
Brook due to the jurisdictional mess that the property was in because they were
unable to get approvals from any jurisdiction to do anything with their property.
The house had burned down and they wanted to do something with it. They
believed it would be appropriate as an office parcel. The Village of Oak Brook did
not want to de -annex the property and Oakbrook Terrace already had jurisdiction
over the south one -third of the parcel, so they filed a petition to annex the center
portion of the property into the Village of Oak Brook to get the zoning for what
became known as the Town and Country office site. Through the annexation
process, the Village of Oak Brook looked at it as a unified lot, even though the
southern portion was located in Oak Brook Terrace. It was mandated in a recorded
restrictive covenant that the southerly portion of the lot located in Oak Brook
Terrace, by the means of a private deed restriction, must be maintained as open
space. Through the approval process, the southerly 37.5 feet that is located within
Oak Brook Terrace was the setback for the property and permitted the building to be
constructed within two feet of it. Town and Country was given permission to build
a 12,000 square foot above -grade office building, with a 6,000 square foot building,
totally 18,000 square feet on the site with 47 parking spaces.
InSite bought the building years later, Private Bank occupied the first floor, and
InSite was on the second. Due to lack of space, Private Bank moved out to another
site in Oak Brook so that they could have a drive -thru facility. At that time, InSite
began looking at ways to utilize the property for a bank again. As part of this
process, The Plan Commission, Zoning Board of Appeals, the neighbors, and the
City of Oakbrook Terrace voiced a number of objections to the site plan previously
submitted. The objections previously raised were to the Special Use. There was a
concern that the headlights from vehicles accessing the site would shine in on the
neighbors and disturb the use of their property. There was concern that there would
be noise coming from the ATM facility; and that fencing and landscaping would be
lost through redevelopment or would be inadequate to screen the site. There were
architectural concerns regarding the specific appearance and look of the building and
previous boards, expressed a request that they see "great detail" as to what the
building and property would look like. There was concern the way the traffic was
located and the location of the drive -thru facility would be in relationship to the
properties to the west. There was a concern regarding the lighting plan, hours of
operation, trash bin screening, and the sounds associated with the air conditioning
coolers. In addition to the requirement process of the Village, InSite, also conducted
a meeting at the subject property, giving notice to individual neighbors, to the
officials of the City Oakbrook Terrace and was attended by two of the alderman.
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The meeting was also attended by several neighbors, two trustees of the Village of
Oak Brook and the planners from both communities. They have gone through great
lengths to deal with all of the objections and have submitted a new plan for the site.
Tom Cervenka, InSite Real Estate reviewed the background and concerns that had
been raised. People did not understand how they could fit a drive -thru on the site.
There was confusion that they would be encroaching upon the neighbors. Exhibits
noted as pages U and W in the case file, show renderings of the proposed Fifth Third
Bank building. There is an overlay of the existing building, indicating the existing
building over the proposed structure. The Fifth Third Building is much more
recessed. The main concern is to the neighbors to the west and south. The exhibit
shows that the bulk of the building will be reduced and the distance to the property
line will be withdrawn. The other exhibit shows plain elevation view so that the
distances from the property lines can be visualized. After the last hearing, it was
suggested that they have a meeting in their office to sit down with the neighbors.
They invited them over and listed to their concerns. As a result, they generated new
plans incorporating a retaining wall concept with additional landscaping. The main
concern was headlights and sound. The retaining wall/berm concept would
definitely shield the neighbors from any traffic, headlights or sounds within the
drive -thru area. The Village of Oak Brook does not permit a solid fence, so they
came up with this combination to provide a shielding, because the neighbors and
Oakbrook Terrace officials did not think that landscaping would be enough. He
reviewed the route of the cars through the proposed drive -thru, showing the light
would be shielded. New air conditioning units will be quieter and tucked behind
additional landscape and will be,located farther from the setback line.
Elizabeth Logalbo, Real Estate Manager, Fifth Third Bank, explained the history
behind the banks name, which resulted in the merging of Fifth National Bank and
Third National Bank back in the 1870's in the Ohio Valley. Fifth Third Bank
entered the Chicago market and currently has 160 financial centers in the Chicago
market and approximately 1100 banking centers in the United States. They are the
4`" largest bank in Chicago and the 13th largest bank nationally and continue to grow
nationally and regionally. Currently they are not located in the Village of Oak
Brook and would love to be a corporate citizen. An average banking facility
employs about 6 people. The bank is a low traffic generator. On weekdays, the
bank lobby operates 8:00 to 5:00 p.m., and the drive -thru operates 9:00 to 6:00 p.m.
On Saturday, the lobby operates 8:00 to 1:00 p.m. and the drive -thru operates 9:00 to
1:00 p.m. They feel that having a drive -thru is invaluable to the industry. We live
in a society where convenience and convenient service is necessary or someone will
go to a competitor to receive the same kind of service. Online banking has also
become a big part of their industry again, due to convenience. Every facility they
have been opening has a drive -thru included. At any time during the day, they have
not found their drive -thru packed to capacity. The reason they try to include as
many drive -thru lanes as they do, because when someone enters the bank they want
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the customer to be able to pull right in and get service as fast as possible, not waiting
in line. Their goal is to give the customer service immediately upon entering the
bank. Because of the site restriction as this facility, they are able to accommodate 2
drive -thrus and an ATM lane. They did want to accommodate the concerns
regarding the noise level impacting the residents immediately around the property.
Although it is a 24 -hour operating ATM kiosk, it is just a touch screen and does not
produce sound. The speakers in the drive -thru lanes have sound levels that cannot
be moderated. It is preset at a sound level to let the customer correspond with tellers
inside the bank. They look forward to being a corporate citizen in Oak Brook.
Mr. Day reviewed the changes in the site plans that were modified in response to the
concern that had been raised. The site plans submitted have a different
configuration for the building, which have been turned 90- degrees. The drive -thru
now points to the east toward Route 83, rather than south toward the residential
properties. The added berming of the parcel essentially raises the southerly and
westerly property boundary through a landscape feature. The berming adds enough
elevation so that the headlights shine into the retaining wall that holds back the earth
and landscaping features on the other side. It is an accommodation that reduces the
sound from the vehicles passing through and shields the residences from the
headlights. The air conditioning chiller locations have been moved off of Monterey
Avenue to a location that is further from the residences and have been substituted
with residential grade units, which mean that the sound is the same as those for
residences. The lighting plan has been submitted and there is a reduction to the
overall bulk on the site.
He compared the existing and proposed structures.
Old
Proposed New
Reduction
Height:
37 -feet
24 -feet
35%
Square feet:
18,000
3,796
79%
(w/basement)
Above Ground
12,000
3,796
68%
Parking:
47
22
53%
Old Footprint:
6,000
3,796
37%
The Zoning Ordinance is written so that the setback is from the zoning district.
Technically the zoning district for this parcel runs along the north lot line, which is
lot 3. To the south of that is the 37.5 feet that is located in Oakbrook Terrace. Even
though it is the same parcel, it is a separate zoning district, so the 60 -foot setback
would have to be measured from the boundary line, rather than the lot line, which is
the lot ownership. There is an application pending seeking a variation, to allow the
south line of the zoning lot to be the lot line, not the boundary line. Under the
ordinances, the entire property was married together by the restrictive covenants
required by the Village. At that time, it was intended to be used as a single site. The
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way that the zoning lots are defined, a property that is intended to be used as single
unit is a single zoning lot, even if it is in different zoning districts. They are seeking
to use the south line of the zoning lot as opposed to the south line of the zoning
district. If that is permitted, they will exceed the setback requirements on the south
side of the parcel. .
They have addressed the standards for a special use and have been submitted in the
case file. Mr. Day reviewed the special use factors as follows:
Special Use Standards
1. Is of the type described in subsection Al. of this Section, is deemed
necessary for the public convenience at that location.
RESPONSE: The property is in a very unique location of the Village. It is one of
the few B -1 parcels in the zoning district. At this location, 16th Street, west of Route
83 is very short. The two parcels obtain 100 percent of their customer, B -1 usage
from Route 83. Route 83 has been given the Strategic Regional Arterial designation
from the Illinois Department of Transportation, which has nearly 69,000 cars per
day. The designation is one step lower than a controlled access highway such as I-
88. The parcel is isolated from the roadway network, is supposed to take extremely
high traffic, and a land use that has been restricted to the B -1 category. This parcel
must of necessity, take vehicular traffic because it is not pedestrian friendly. The
parcel can only be accessed by a motor vehicle, because crossing Route 83 at this
location is prohibited. The parcel needs a land use that is viable and an
economically sound land use that takes advantage of the vehicular traffic at this
location. The village also has a land use restriction on the parcel that says it cannot
be a retail use. It has to be one of the uses in the B -1 District that is not a retail use.
Based upon the uniqueness of the parcel, its location with the vehicular traffic, they
think that the land use that is dependent upon a drive -thru with a significant bulk
restriction on the parcel is in express keeping with the public convenience at this
location.
2. Is so designed, located and proposed to be operated that the public
health, safety and welfare will be protected;
RESPONSE: The hours of operation have been provided and there has been
significant modification made to the site plan, including the landscaping, bulk
regulations and think they have met this requirement.
3. Would not cause substantial injury to the value of other property in the
neighborhood in which it is.located.
RESPONSE: If the special use is approved, the parcels to the north, northeast, and
the west are much more intensely commercial than this site. There has been a
significant downgrading of the amount of bulk proposed for this site; and with the
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additional landscaping, would be more conducive to the residential neighbors.
Mr. William Lindeman, resident said that the shortness of 16`x' street could
contribute to traffic problems due to the stacking distance for vehicles exiting the
Oaks of Oak Brook and the bank, which could occupy the entire stack distance. It is
a very slow traffic signal. Hopefully, the traffic will increase with the recent
benefits given to the Oaks of Oak Brook. He is unable to understand why the Village
is jumping through hoops and bending over to accommodate a bank. He questioned
why it could not remain an office building, which was its original use and what
attempt was made to continue it. He does not know what great contributions a bank
makes to the Village and there are already a number of banks; or did he understand
why so many changes were made to accommodate one property.
Mr. Day responded that there is a fear that sites like this would bring new traffic to
the location where there are already 69,000 vehicles on a daily basis. Traffic
engineers would agree that facilities of this nature are not destination banking. It is
some of the 69,000 vehicles passing by the location, on a daily basis, that will bank
at this location. These banks feed off of the existing traffic and do not bring new
traffic to Route 83. The light is slow, but none of the land uses on 16`x' Street has
experienced any stacking along 16`x' Street. InSite has been there for 10 years
without experiencing that problem. They way that the site is configured they have
relocated the drive -thru facility to the south side of the parcel which leaves an
additional stacking bay along the west side of the parcel. What the Zoning
Ordinance should or should not say is an ongoing discussion with municipal boards.
They are evolving documents and are constantly in the state of change. As it relates
to this site, and as one of the few B -1 parcels in the community, at this location
should permit banking inclusive of drive -thru facilities and they believe they have
met the burden as it relates to that.
Village Engineer Durfey said that he was comfortable with the way the applicant
addressed the concerns regarding traffic.
Mr. Tom Thomas, Alderman, Ward One, Oakbrook Terrace said that the bank
building is in his ward. He thanked the Village for the opportunity to present and
contribute to the decision - making.
Steve Schneider, Oakbrook Terrace resident said that he is located west of the
subject property. His major concern is that there will be adequate landscaping to
hide the traffic and the cars.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that Oakbrook Terrace talked
about the process of landscaping and said that Village Engineer Durfey would
review it. Lighting cannot exceed .5 at the property line and would be reviewed as
part of the building permit process.
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Member Iyer asked if the bank had looked at the peak load during the busiest time of
the day.
Ms. Logalbo responded that it varies by location and the busiest time is usual the
busiest on Friday during the 5:00 hour. It most likely would never exceed 8 car
stacking at the peak hours. They have 160 sites in Chicago. There is sufficient
space to accommodate 12 cars stacking at this site.
Member Sharma asked if the residents of Oakbrook Terrace used 16th Street to
access their homes.
Mr. Day responded that there is a closure between the commercial and residential
locations and there is no access from 161h Street.
Member Lalmalani asked why the bank was interested in the location since the light
there takes so long to turn instead of a location that could be accessed rather quickly.
Mr. Day said that Fifth Third Bank has over 150 banks in the Chicagoland area; they
study the sites and market plan effectively, have a tremendous success record, and
would be an excellent corporate citizen of Oak Brook.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that when the matter moves
forward to the Village Board the text amendments would require approval. There is
also a variation that will be going to the Zoning Board of Appeals for the setback
line. They are looking into bringing the property into the Village of Oak Brook.
Mr. Day said that it was suggested by the City of Oakbrook Terrace that the portion
of the property that exists there be annexed into the Village of Oak Brook. The
applicants have expressed a willingness to do so, but the Village of Oak Brook will
need to want to annex the property. The clients are willing to process the
application, providing they get the direction from the Village. In that case, the
variation that is associated with the district boundary line would not be needed,
because they would exceed the setback standards.
Mr. Lindeman, resident said that he was not sure his comments were fully
understood. When he referred to stack distance he was not referring to the bank site,
he was referring to the short length of 16th Street from the exit driveway to Route
83. He did not feel that 69,000 cars per day on Route 83 were relevant. It is the
time that it takes the customers from the Oaks of Oak Brook and others to wait in
line for the traffic signals to allow them onto Route 83. It is the number of cars per
hour that will attempt to enter Route 83 or continue onto 161h Street that is
important. If it should cause a minor traffic jam, due to the short distance of 161h
Street it would have an impact on the desire of shoppers to use the Oaks of Oak
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Brook and the banks itself'. He added that there has been no maintenance of the strip
of property south of the bank site.
Mr. Day responded that the Illinois Department of Transportation controls the light
and they have the ability to adjust the lights to the traffic that is there. If there are
warrants, they adjust the lights to ensure that they can accommodate the vehicular
traffic stacking should it become a problem. In regards to the maintenance and
landscaping, this was the first time in the numerous meetings with the commissions,
boards and neighbors regarding the maintenance of the property, so they cannot
respond at this time.
Chairwoman Payovich asked the neighbors in the audience if they had any problem
with the maintenance of the property. There was no indication from anyone in the
audience that a problem existed.
Trustee Wolin said that Mr. Lindeman was right that 16 "' Street is a short street and
there could be a danger of stacking. He is familiar with the intersection because his
home is right there and he passes through it several times a day. Since he spends a
lot of time there, he does notice the traffic flows. Typically, there are seldom more
than one or two cars exiting from that area on 16`'' Street, and the most he has ever
seen was three or four vehicles. He agrees that it could be a potential problem; he
did not believe that it was a high -risk issue. In terms of who will be going to the
bank, people are careful of the banks they use and most people using the site would
enter right and exit right again to leave.
Motion by Member Lalmalani, seconded by Member Iyer that the applicant has
addressed and satisfied the requirements for a special use to recommend approval of
a drive -in banking facility as requested subject to the following conditions:
1. Approval of the text amendments to the Zoning Ordinance to make banks a
permitted use in the B -1 District and drive -thru banking facilities a special
use in the B -1 District;
2. Approval of a variation to Section 13- 7A -3C -1c to permit an encroachment
into the B -1 District boundary line requirement; or Approval of the
detachment of lot 3 from Oakbrook Terrace and approval by the Village of
Oak Brook for the annexation of lot 3 and consolidation of the now separate
parcels into a single parcel;
3. Development in accordance to the site plans proposed by Fifth Third
Bancorp (see the case file);
4. Construction of a landscaped berm along the south side of the bank drive -
thru addressing concerns by the residents of Oakbrook Terrace;
S. All lighting on the bank property shall be properly screened to ensure that the
illumination shall not exceed .S foot candles at the property line; and
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6. Address all issues raised in the June 26, 2007 memorandum from the Village
Engineer Durfey.
7. Notwithstanding the exhibits contained in the case file, the applicant shall
meet all village ordinance requirements at the time of building permit
application except as specifically varied or waived.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 6 — Members Adrian, Iyer, Lalmalani, Sharma, Tropinski and Chairwoman
Payovich
Nays: 0 — None. Motion Carried.
OTHER BUSINESS
There was no other business to discuss.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion by Member Adrian, seconded by Member Iyer to adjourn the meeting at
8:32 p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
Robert Kallien, Zirec - Community Development
Secretary
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