Minutes - 08/27/2003 - Plan CommissionVILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
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August 27, 2003
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
ALSO PRESENT:
A quorum was present.
Chairwoman
Members
Director of Community Development
Acting Fire Chief
Barbara Payovich
Paul Adrian
David Braune
Jeffrey Bulin
Surendra Goel
Marcia Tropinski
Gerald Wolin
Robert Kallien
Robert Cronholm
IL VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK — ZONING ORDINANCE REVIEW PROJECT — TEXT
AMENDMENTS — TITLE 13 OF THE VILLAGE CODE — ZONING ORDINANCE —
CHAPTER 6 — RESIDENCE DISTRICTS SECTION 13- 6A -3 -D, SECTION 13- 6B -3 -D,
SECTION 13- 6C -3 -D, SECTION 13- 6D -3 -D — STRUCTURE HEIGHT, SECTION 13- 6B -3F-
2, SECTION 13- 6C -3F -2, SECTION 13- 6D -3F -2 — SIDE LOAD GARAGES
Director of Community Development Kallien said that a matrix had been included with the case file
(page 19) that provides additional information requested at the previous meeting. The analysis
included what would be the largest house on the smallest lot in all of the surrounding /comparable
communities. There were a couple of anomalies such as Hinsdale, which if the lot is over 30,000
square feet and achieves a 27 -foot side yard they could have a 42 -foot high house, measured at
the mean. He called Hinsdale and they indicated that a 42 -foot high home, the way they measure it
equates to a 50 -foot high peak, based on a 12/12 slope of the roof. A 10/12 slope will provide a
48 -foot high house. For communities that allow a 35 -foot mean, which is the majority, equates to
approximately a 42 -43 foot peak. The lots that support these measurements are very small. Some
of Naperville's lots are as small as 6,000 square feet. Most of the houses in Oak Brook, the first
floor is bigger than 6,000 square feet, so there is a significant difference.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that letters regarding this meeting were sent to all
of the Homeowners Associations as well as the Village web page. As a result, only one call had
been received and that person was very much in favor of any increase in structure height.
Page 19 of the case file is an outline of items to be covered in a recommendation to the Zoning
Board of Appeals and Village Board. The Plan Commission decided to review each item.
1. All structure heights for single - family homes will be measured to the peak of the roof. — All
Members agreed.
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2. The structure height will be measured the following ways:
a. In engineered subdivisions, the height will be measured using the approved grading
plan. — All members agreed.
b. For lots improved with an existing single - family home, the existing floor elevation
and/or foundation elevation can be maintained. — Members agreed to add the word
existing for clarification.
C. For any other situation, the Village Engineer can amend shall determine an
elevation based on the existing grades and grades of adjacent properties. —
Members agreed to change the word from recommend to determine.
During the discussion on accessible heights by the Fire Department, Acting Fire Chief Robert
Cronholm said the gutter line allows the Fire Department an access to the roof. In order to access
the window of occupiable space would be 32 feet, which is actually the bottom of the window. A
ladder can be put up to the bottom of the window to access that living space. They bring a roof
ladder with them to climb up further on the roof. To provide hard numbers is very difficult because
there are so many things that come into play. In a perfect situation is where they have access to
100% of the building, however hindrances can exist, such as cars in the driveway, vegetation, etc.
A strategically placed car in the driveway can keep the Fire department from getting to the front of
the house, even with a fire engine. Problems can be established in a number of different ways. In
commercial settings they build structures higher than they can put there ladders up to. In many
different residential situations, they do the same. The Fire Department should not make a
determination for the maximum height. They have adapted over time. As far as access with the
ladders for rescue situations also depends upon the design of the buildings. The creativity of the
current house designs prohibits access to certain windows. They will not be able to get to every
roofline, with every ladder.
He said that the Fire Department should not stand in the way of any increased heights that can
increase the property values and improve the quality of life in Oak Brook. Hinsdale is a perfect
example of some place that the Oak Brook Fire Department goes to assist and they are posed with
these very obstacles. There are houses in Hinsdale that are 50 feet high on smaller lots that
makes it more difficult to get around those houses because they are closer together than in Oak
Brook. As far as fire operations go, if Hinsdale has a fire, Oak Brook's Fire Department goes to
help them.
Chairwoman Payovich asked if the fire department felt there was a real concern would he
recommend different size ladders and equipment to deal with these situations. Acting Fire Chief
Cronholm responded absolutely and said that over the years in Oak Brook, they have been
fortunate to be provided with the additional equipment and training to take care of whatever
situation, they have come across.
Member Wolin noted that in some of the other suburbs, they have fire suppression requirements
and if the Plan Commission would recommend heights from 45 -50 feet, would there be any
urgency to say anything about fire suppression. Acting Fire Chief Cronholm said in his opinion that
was another subject and that absent this issue, he is a supporter of residential sprinkler systems.
The statistics support that they save lives and property. Some communities are requiring them in
all new residential construction, but it is far from 100 %. Member Adrian asked about the cost.
Acting Fire Chief Cronholm said that it is approximately 5% of the total cost of construction.
Member Bulin added that it runs approximately $3.50 per foot.
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Member Adrian said that he does not believe that this issue should be tied to structure height. All
members agreed that they are not in a rush to recommend this, but it should be addressed
separately by the Village Board. Director of Community Development said that it is really is a
building code issue and should be addressed by the Village Board. Member Goel noted that it is an
important issue, but not an urgent issue and should be separated from the structure height issue.
All members agreed.
Member Bulin reviewed some of the reference materials provided for the Plan Commission. Page
9 of the reference materials was taken out of the 2000 International Building Code, which speaks to
emergency escape and egress. It refers to rescue windows and the height of ladders required to
get into 32 feet. Page 11 describes the size of the windows and the basic location relative to the
floor of where they are allowed. Page 12 shows a maximum elevation for some of the egress
windows, which is over and above the issue of the International building code. A sample sentence
was given that could be added to the definition of structure height, if the Plan Commission wanted
to address the issue, where a building that exceeds a thirty foot highest occupiable space, there
would be a requirement that there be an egress window with a maximum elevation of thirty -two foot
above grade. There is a way to deal with it if we wanted. There are different definitions for
habitable and occupiable space based upon the International Building Code that the Village follows.
(Page 7 and 8 of the reference documents). Occupiable space is the more stringent definition of
space because if the 3.5 stories is allowed, then the %2 story could be considered an occupiable
space and we want to ensure that we have access to that occupiable space as a means for
emergency egress, as opposed to defining it as a habitable space, such as a look -out tower, which
may not be able to be accessed due to the height of the highest egress window. As structure height
is redefined, we may want to add a sentence or definition that provides for a maximum elevation of
the egress window if we have roof heights that exceed the current maximum. There is no provision
for that in the building in code.
Add the following: The Plan Commission recommends the following language, where residential
building heights exceed 30 feet, the highest occupiable space must have an emergency escape
and rescue opening at a maximum elevation of 32 feet above grade. — All members agreed.
Member Adrian said that he agrees with the idea of increasing the structure height in the R -1, R -2
district. The parcels in Oak Brook are much larger than in other communities. On a 3 -acre parcel,
you would not be able to tell the difference between a 40 and 55 foot home.
There was a general discussion on the pros and cons of imposing increased side yard setbacks for
increased structure heights. Generally all the members were agreeable to higher structures in the
R -1 and R -2 districts but their views varied in the R -3 and R -4 districts. Member Goel said that he
would not impose increased sideyard setbacks. Member Tropinski favored increased setbacks in
the R -3 and R -4 districts because there are many lots that are long and narrow. She reviewed a
concept called a "daylight setback plane" used in some towns that controls the bulk.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that in the R -4 district if someone built a 31 -foot
house, by using increased setbacks they would have to increase their sideyard setback by 5 feet.
He believes that would be a total disincentive for this process. The Village would be inundated by
variations. It should be stepped process. The current premise of the Ordinance is that once you
go over 30 feet there is a graduated scale to increase setbacks to increase structure height. There
is a significant difference if someone goes to 31 feet versus 38 feet and the increased setback
would be the same. To add this condition would not be an incentive for someone to modernize their
property or seek a variation. Many of Oak Brook's subdivision are older and there are lots that
have difficulty fitting normal sized houses and are not perfectly shaped. Many lots in Ginger Creek
have 70 feet of frontage and are 1'/2 acres in size and very long. Under this scenario, we would
have tall narrow homes. R -4 is the only district that has small setbacks and he questioned the true
benefit to requiring increased setbacks.
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Member Adrian did not agree with the increased setback requirement, because we are trying to
allow for a taller house and maintain what the residents already have. They want to build the same
house with bigger floors and more stories. By forcing someone to make the house skinnier defeats
what we are trying to accomplish. You also start to lose something that is important to this
community which is the yard size. He would much prefer to have a bigger back yard than a side
yard. This is something that our community has that not many others have.
Member Goel noted that he did not see any 50 -foot high houses in the study. Director of
Community Development Kallien said that Hinsdale`s houses could go over 50 feet in height. The
large lots in Oak Brook have the land to support the increased height.
3. The maximum structure height for single - family homes will be laddered by zoning district as
follows: ;- - Members agreed to
delete language to avoid confusion.
a. R -1 District - 50 feet
b. R -2 District - 45 feet (lots one acre minimum)
C. R -2 District (lots less than one acre) and R -3 District - 40 feet
d. R -4 District - 35 feet
4. The maximum number of stories for any single - family home shall not be limited to 2.5 stories.
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Director of Community Development Kallien said that it might not be necessary to define when we
have agreed to the maximum structure height. The Fire Department has said that it is not an issue.
With the type of home and investment that people are putting into these structures, would it really
matter?
All members agreed that it would provide more architectural flexibility. The structures will still need
to meet the new egress window height, so there are defining elements.
5. The current required front, side and rear yard setbacks shall continue. However, it is
recommended that the existing requirement which increases the side yard setback for any
home to be built to a height of 40 feet (R -1 and R -2 parcels of at least an acre) shall be
eliminated.
After a long discussion, the members agreed to maintain the current setbacks and eliminate the
need for increased setbacks imposed on the R -1 and R -2 districts.
6. The maximum height for any home constructed with a continuous flat roof shall be changed to:
35 feet in the R -1 and R -2 Districts. Homes with a continuous flat roof in the R -3 and R -4
districts would be limited to a maximum height of 30 feet. The reef height fell: any heme
GORStFUnters with a flat reef shall he limited to 30 feet innlu Jinn These heights include the
parapet wall.
This was part of the discussion on establishing structure height. All Members agreed to these
numbers to allow some increase in size on the larger lots. All members agreed.
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7. Any lot, which has been granted a variation to reduce any required yard should be limited to the
current maximum structure height of 30 feet. Any request to increase the structure height will
require the approval of a variation by the Village.
There are wide ranges of variations granted that encroach into the side yards. Member Goel
commented that he did not believe that someone would need to be held to a restricted height
because they were granted a variation, considering all the homes around it would be allowed to be
built much taller. Member Tropinski, said that practically speaking, the greatest impact would be in
the R -4 District, and questioned that it would be a significant difference. she suggested that this
matter be taken into account when they are seeking a variation. It is reasonable and all members,
with the exception n of Member Goel agreed.
8. Regarding comments form the Fire Department the Commission recommends the following
language; Where residential building heights exceed 30 feet the highest occupiable space
must have an emergency escape and rescue opening at a maximum elevation of 32 feet above
grade. All relevant concerns and issues raised by the Fire Department are incorporated into
this recommendation.
All the Members agreed to this condition.
9. The Commission discussed the issue of requiring additional fire suppression and detection
devices as part of its deliberation to increase the maximum height of residential structures. It
was recommended that the fire suppression /detection device issue be detached from this case
and be addressed separately by the Village Board.
All members agreed to this condition.
10. The Commission recommends that the Village Board refer a case back to them to review the
height of accessory structures in residential district which are now limited to 15 feet.
Chairwoman Payovich noted that there have been several residents appearing at all the hearings
that have stated strong support of the request. Throughout these four hearings no one has spoken
or sent any communication in opposition to the request.
In making this recommendation, the Plan Commission finds that the Village (as the petitioner) has
satisfied the applicable standards required for a text amendment finding that:
1. The request to increase the structure height of single - family homes is based on a
substantial analysis of how other similar communities regulate the height issue.
2. The maximum structure heights for single - family homes presently allowed in Oak
Brook are significantly lower than other similar communities.
3. The Plan Commission concurs with the concept that by permitting taller homes, it will
have a positive impact in Oak Brook regarding keeping the community current,
offering a variety of housing styles and creating an environment which increases
home and property values.
4. The proposed structures heights are deemed reasonable and in line with the survey
information from other similar communities.
5. The Plan Commission considered the input provided by a number of residents and
local architects who support the concept of permitting taller homes.
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6. The fact that Oak Brook with its large lots permits very large homes. However, the
30 -foot height restriction limits the type of roof structure that can be built and often
results in the use flat roofs for all or a portion of the home.
7. The fact that Oak Brook already requires larger lot sizes and side yard setbacks
mitigates the potential impact of allowing taller residential structures.
8. The recommendation to allow the tallest homes on R -1 and R -2 zoned properties is
consistent with the current Village policy to permit 40 -foot high homes on the R -1 and
R -2 zoned parcels.
9. The recommendation to no longer limit residential structures to 2.5 stories is based
on the principle that the design of homes should be controlled by structure height, not
number of stories.
10. The current setbacks are adequate to support increased structures heights.
11. The recommendation to increase the maximum height of homes with continuous flat
roofs to 35 feet for R -1 and R -2 properties and 30 feet in the R -3 and R -4 properties
is reasonable.
Member Goel moved, seconded by Member Adrian to recommend approval of the text amendment to
increase structure height based on the petitioners having satisfied the applicable standards and to
incorporate all conditions as follows:
1. All structure heights for single - family homes will be measured to the peak of
the roof.
2. The structure height provision as defined in 13 -3 -10 of the Zoning Ordinance
should be modified so that height of homes will be measured using one of
the following methods:
a. In engineered subdivisions, the height will be measured using the
approved grading plan.
b. For lots improved with an existing single - family home, the existing
floor elevation and /or foundation elevation can be maintained.
C. For any other situation, the Village Engineer shall determine an
elevation based on the existing grades and grades of adjacent
properties.
3. The maximum structure height for single - family homes will be laddered by
zoning district as follows;
a. R -1 District — 50 feet
b. R -2 District — 45 feet (lots one acre or larger)
C. R -2 District (lots less than one acre) and R -3 District - 40 feet
d. R -4 District - 35 feet
4. The maximum number of stories for any single - family home shall not be
limited to 2.5 stories.
5. The current required front, side and rear yard setbacks shall continue.
However, it is recommended that the existing provision that increases the
required side yard setback for any home built to a height of 40 feet in the R -1
and R -2 districts shall be eliminated.
6. The maximum height for any home constructed with a continuous flat roof
shall be changed to; 35 feet in the R -1 and R -2 districts. Homes with a
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continuous flat roof in the R -3 and R -4 districts would be limited to a
maximum height of 30 feet. These heights include the parapet wall.
7. Any lot, which has been granted a variation to reduce any required yard
should be limited to the current maximum structure height of 30 feet. Any
request to increase the structure height will require the approval of a variation
by the Village.
8. Regarding comments from the Fire Department, the Commission
recommends the following language; Where residential building heights
exceed 30 feet, the highest occupiable space must have an emergency
escape and rescue opening at a maximum elevation of 32 feet above grade.
9. The Commission discussed the issue of requiring additional fire suppression
and detection devices as part of its deliberation to increase the maximum
height of residential structures. It was recommended that the fire
suppression /detection device issue be detached from this case and be
addressed separately by the Village Board.
10. The Commission recommends that the Village Board refer a case back to
them to review the height of accessory structures in residential districts which
are now limited to 15 feet.
ROLL CALL VOTE: Ayes: 7 - Adrian, Braune, Bulin, Goel, Tropinski, Wolin and Payovich
Nays: 0-
Motion Carried.
SECTIONS 13- 3- 6A- 3 -F(2) - 13- 3- 6B- 3 -F(2); 13- 3- 6C- 3 -F(2) and 13- 3- 6D -3F(2) — YARDS - SIDE
LOAD GARAGES
Director of Community Development Kallien reviewed the previously discussed proposed amendment
regarding side -load garages in the residential districts. With respect to side load garages, at the present
time, there is no specific ordinance standard requiring a larger side yard to accommodate the turning
movements associated with a side load garage. Based on the recommendation of the Village Engineer,
a side yard of at least 23 feet is required to provide safe ingress /egress to a side load garage.
No one in the audience spoke in favor or in opposition to the request.
In making this recommendation, the Plan Commission finds that the Village (as the petitioner) has
satisfied the applicable standards required for a text amendment finding that:
1. The amendment for side load garages is consistent with accepted engineering
standards,
2. The amendment will protect the public health, safety and welfare of the residents, and
3. The amendment will not have a negative impact on the community.
Member Bulin moved, seconded by Member Braune that the petitioner has satisfied the requirements as
required by ordinance to recommend for approval of the proposed language as requested.
ROLL CALL VOTE: Ayes: 7 - Adrian, Braune, Bulin, Goel, Tropinski, Wolin and Payovich
Nays: 0-
Motion Carried.
Chairwoman Payovich thanked the Commissioners and staff for their hard work and dedication on
this important issue.
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M. ADJOURNMENT
Member Braune moved, seconded by Member Bulin to adjourn.
VOICE VOTE: All in favor. Motion carried.
Meeting was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
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Director of Commu evelopment
Secretary
September 15, 2003
Date Approved
August 27, 2003