Minutes - 10/19/2009 - Plan CommissionMINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 19, 2009 REGULAR
MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK APPROVED AS WRITTEN
ON FEBRUARY 15, 2010
CALL TO ORDER: CALL To ORDER
The Regular Meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairwoman
Payovich in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler Government Center at
7:32 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL: ROLLCALL
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairwoman, Barbara Payovich, Members Richard Knitter, Gopal
Lalmalani, Mintu Sharma, Vivek Singhal and Marcia Tropinski
ABSENT: Member Raju Iyer
IN ATTENDANCE: Robert Kallien Jr., Director of Community Development and
Michael Hullihan, Village Engineer/Public Works Director
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF JULY 20, 2009
Motion by Member Lalmalani, seconded by Member Knitter to approve the minutes
of the July 20, 2009 Regular Plan Commission meeting as written. VOICE VOTE:
Motion Carried.
REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF AUGUST 17,200
Motion by Member Lalmalani, seconded by Member Knitter to approve the minutes
of the August 17, 2009 Regular Plan Commission meeting as written. VOICE
VOTE: Motion Carried.
REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF SEPTEMBER 21.
2009
Motion by Member Knitter, seconded by Member Lalmalani to approve the minutes
of the September 21, 2009 Regular Plan Commission meeting as amended. VOICE
VOTE: Motion Carved.
4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS UNFINISHED
BUSINESS
A. YORK ROAD DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS LLC — 1800, 1802, and 1806 YORK ROAD
DEVEL.- 1800,
YORK ROAD — MAP AMENDMENT TO REZONED THE PROPERTY 1802, 1806 YORK
RD — MAP an d
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FROM R -3 to 0-4, AMENDMENT TO ADD "MEDICAL OFFICES" AMENDMENT -
IN THE 0-4 DISTRICT• AND SPECIAL USE — TO ALLOW THE SPECIAL USE -
CONSTRUCTION OF A MEDICAL OFFICE ON THE PROPERTY MEDICAL
OFFICE BLDG
Director of Community Development Kallien briefly reviewed the status of the
request.
Mark Maturo — Proteus Group, Project Architect, provided an overhead display of
the project and reviewed the following:
• The Structure will be a 3 -story glass and masonry building.
• Access will be through the frontage road.
Two levels of underground parking and surface parking.
A new section of berming (reviewed below)
Craig Farnsworth — Hitchcock Design Group, Landscape Architect reviewed the
landscape plan depicting a cross section of the building, including the 4 -foot high
earth berm and York Road. (The four feet was measured from the parking lot
grade.) There will be a mixture of shade trees and deciduous shrubs so that the
people across the street from York Road or the bike path would not see the front of
the cars, just the building above the berm.
Mike Rechtorik — V3 Companies, Project Traffic Engineer provided an overview of
the area. York Road currently has two lanes in each direction adjacent to the site.
The site is surrounded by I -88 and Roosevelt Road to the north. There are two
frontage roads (Timber Edge Drive and Harger Road) to the west of York Road,
which provides access to the local area. He noted that the Village has a future
improvement plan to widen York Road from I -88 north to Roosevelt Road, however
a timeline for funding has not been yet identified and it is a long -term improvement.
Their study focused on the traffic impact as it relates to this project as well as
developing an interim improvement for York Road. The updated traffic study had
been submitted to staff for review and included trip generation and future
anticipated traffic improvements. A York Road concept plan was worked on with
Irgens, V3, Village staff and the Village's consultant, who worked together to figure
out the best interim solution to accommodate everyone's needs, which included
northbound and southbound exclusive turn lanes. With some timing modifications,
what has been proposed would be a good interim solution.
Harry Peters, 808 Wildwood Court, and President of the Forest Glen Homeowner's
Association said that as a 20 -year resident, he has relatives that still cannot figure
out the jug handle intersection at Forest Glen. He believed that the proposed turn
lanes would be an outstanding improvement. He worked closely with the Village on
the Commercial Areas Revitalization Plan, the Beautification Committee, and the
North York Road Improvement Project. The applicant involved him and the Forest
Glen subdivision in the plans and applauded Village Staff and those entities that are
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interested in doing development work along York Road. Last spring, Irgens came to
Bob Kallien, who put them in touch with Forest Glen and Woodside Estate
subdivisions. The developer attended two of the homeowner subdivision meetings
and explained what they wanted to do and listened to all of the feedback from
residents. The highest and best use has been proposed and it is a good use of the
land. He could not imagine anyone who would want to put a home on the property.
Their homeowner association board discussed it and is in agreement to support the
project, as they know it. They believe it will be good for them and for Oak Brook.
William Woodward said that he represented his in -laws who live at 606 Lakewood
Court. He thanked everyone for their efforts and said that the plans look promising.
He questioned whether there would be signage added for traffic control.
Mr. Rechtorik responded that appropriate signage would be added. The jug handle
would serve a dual purpose for people making a u -turn and those wishing to access
the Irgen's site.
Mr. Woodward questioned the distance between the bump out and the jug handle.
Mr. Rechtorik responded that it would be approximately 75 feet.
Director of Community Development Kallien commented that through discussions
with the Village consultant during the Commercial Areas Revitalization plan, the
proposed use on this property makes sense, in light of the development south and
north of the property. Also, a negative situation that currently exists on York Road
would be addressed.
Member Sharma questioned the timing of the improvements on York Road with the
construction of the building.
Director of Community Development Kallien responded that the long -term plan for
York Road is extremely expensive. This project dwarfs the cost of the current
project of the I -88 bridge over 2Vd Street. It would take many years to secure the
necessary funding, if ever, and may need to be done piecemeal. The developer is
committed to making the improvements shown.
Village Engineer/Director of Public Works Hullihan said that the important thing
with the proposed improvements is that they would not impact any future plans for
the project area north on York Road, which means that the design would not need to
be changed, should the long -term plan go forward in the future.
Mr. Oldenburg noted that they started discussions on a development agreement with
the Village, which would memorialize not only the overall scope of the concept plan
improvements, but the cost, cost sharing and schedule and that document would
memorialize all of the terms associated with the York Road improvements.
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Director of Community Development Kallien said the agreement would be between
the developers and the Village Board.
Member Knitter questioned that the developer would be covering 100 percent of the
costs for the left hand turn lanes and whether any land would be taken to provide for
the improvements.
Mr. Oldenburg responded that they did not know for sure, but they had expressed a
desire and interest to. pay for a significant portion of those costs. The interim
improvements are an expensive venture and would ultimately require Village Board
approval. They are proposing to widen both sides of York Road; however, all of
that land is currently in the right of way.
Member Knitter questioned the changes on the elevation drawings.
Mr. Maturo responded that there were not any changes; just more detail had been
provided showing the elevation.
Village Engineer/Director of Public Works Hullihan responded that staff had
requested a cross - section, which depicted and focused on the berm adjacent to York
Road in order to show the screening for the vehicles in the parking lot.
Mr. Oldenburg stressed that it was a concept plan and as they go further into the
process, certain elements of the building may be subject to change, depending upon
additional comments.
Member Lalmalani questioned the number of physician offices and whether
Elmhurst Hospital had a financial interest in the building.
Mr: Oldenburg responded that the number of offices would be determined by the
size of the office space desired by each physician. The proposed building has no
affiliation with any of the area hospitals and it was not anticipated at this time that
any hospital would be leasing space within the building.
Mr. Woodward asked whether the improvements on York Road would be
permanent, regardless of the planned future improvements to York Road.
Mr. Oldenburg responded that most of the physical improvements to York Road
were anticipated to be permanent.
Member Knitter confirmed for the record that he viewed, in its entirety, the video of
the previous Plan Commission hearing on July 20, 2009, regarding the York Road
Development Partners, LLC request.
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Motion by Member Knitter, seconded by Member Lahnalani to recommend
approval of a map amendment to rezone the properties located at 1800, 1802 and
1806 York Road from R -3 to the 0-4 District as requested. ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 6 — Members Knitter, Lalmalani, Sharma, Singhal, Tropinski and
Chairwoman Payovich
Absent:1 — Member Iyer.
Nays: 0 — Motion Carried.
Motion by Member Knitter, seconded by Member Singhal to recommend approval
of a text amendment to Section 13 -10 -E2 of the Zoning Ordinance to include
"medical offices" as a special use as requested. ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 6 — Members Knitter, Lalmalani, Sharma, Singhal, Tropinski and
Chairwoman Payovich
Absent:l — Member. Iyer.
Nays: 0 — Motion Carried.
Motion by Member Knitter, seconded by Member Lahnalani to recommend
approval of a special use to allow the construction of a medical office building to be
located on the property known as 1800, 1802 and 1806 York Road subject to the
following:
1. The issuance of a building permit to construct the office building is subject
to the approval of a final plat to consolidate the parcels.
2. The medical office building will not contain a surgical center.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 6 — Members Knitter, Lalmalani, Sharma, Singhal, Tropinski and
Chairwoman Payovich
Absent:l — Member Iyer
Nays: 0 — Motion Carried.
Chairwoman Payovich called for a five - minute recess.
4, B NAI HIFFMAN
NAI HIFFMAN ON BEHALF OF OAK BROOK PROMENADE. LLC — OAK BROOK
TEXT AMENDMENT B DISTRICTS — TO AMEND SECTION 13 -7 -313 OF PROMENADE,
TEXT AMEND -
THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE: "FARMERS MARKETS" B DISTRICTS -
"FARMERS
MARKETS"
John Brechin, Attorney for the applicant NAI Hif&nan, on behalf of the Oak Brook
Promenade, LLC, responded to the issues raised at the last Plan Commission
meeting and to the comments made by staff on page 10 of the case file, as follows
(comments are bulleted):
• Using the entire parking area east of the out - building would make the use
of that building very difficult. Access is denied to the adjacent parking
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spaces (handicapped and regular) that are on the cast side of the building.
Response: Currently the Robbins Brothers space is vacant; so presently there is
not a problem utilizing the parking south of the building and there is sufficient,
reasonably convenient parking located just to the west of the site. If and when the
space becomes occupied, there will be sufficient parking available. The proposed
site plan shows the farmers market located right next to McCormick and
Sbmick's, which is the exact area that the car show was held; and they did not
have any complaints. The tenants enjoyed the fact that there were many people
milling around the site, seeing the facilities and being attracted into the tenant
spaces as additional customers.
• Several operational questions need to be answered. Will the vendor
spaces be permanent? Will the tent frames remain in this location for the
entire season? If the tents/tent frames are to be set up and taken down for
each event, what will be the timing? Where will these items be stored
during off hours? Staff is very concerned that this area will degrade the
Center if aesthetics are not continuously maintained.
Response: The tents/frames will not be permanent and will be assembled at the
beginning of the day and removed at the end of it. They will want to maintain an
attractive site and have an obligation to the tenants to do so. They have porters
available 12 hours each day. They anticipate engaging a promoter who will be
responsible for managing all of the operational details of the vendors. The
materials will not be stored on site and are planned to be taken off site. If
anything would need to remain, there is an enclosed storage area in the
underground parking area. There will not be any visible equipment, except when
it is in use as a farmers market.
• Why can't the Farmers Market/French Market be located to the rear of
the center?
Response: Management made the decision. They like the location, which is
where the car shows were previously held because of its visibility. The centers u-
shaped layout provides for good ingress and egress into and out of the property.
However, they have the flexibility to move it to another location, if any problems
should develop.
• Does the DuPage County Health Department have any jurisdiction on
these types of uses /activities?
Response: The Health Department has jurisdiction over farmers markets. They
would need to have their application approved and authorized in order to operate
the farmers market. Fanners that sell fruits and vegetables do not need a permit,
but if any processed food were sold they would be required to obtain individual
food permits for the sale of those items. The Health Department inspects the
operations periodically to ensure that all of their regulations are complied with.
• What are the planned hours for these events? Many similar markets in
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other locations operate for periods of not more than six hours.
Response: They anticipate that the market would be open 6 hours per day, which
would be sufficient and appropriate. The time may coincide with the operational
hours of the other tenants.
• The area along I -88 that has been identified as the site to park trucks is
very questionable. Trucks should be relocated to areas where they are
hidden from view from the adjacent roadways.
Response: The area was picked so that they are out of conflict with other
parking requirements. The underground parking area could be used depending
upon the size and height of the trucks; and would be used if necessary.
• What do your tenants think about this plan? I would think that some
would object because it potentially detracts from their businesses.
Several Promenade businesses (i.e., Kona Grill and Labriola) have
outdoor dining areas that face the proposed location for this market.
Response: The tenants want this type of activity. They enjoyed and appreciated
the car shows, The tenants want the farmers market because they know it will
bring additional people onto the site that might not otherwise come to the
Promenade, independent of the activity. It is in large part being proposed in
response to the tenant's requests.
2. When Section 13 -7 -313 was amended several years ago to
accommodate the Macy's tent sale, one of the primary benefits to Oak Brook
was that such event would enhance sales and result in increased sales tax
collections by the Village.
Response: Encouraging and promoting additional traffic at the center will also lead
to additional revenue for the existing uses on the site. These tenants, as well as
many other tenants across the country, have been suffering due to the current market
trends. The previous car shows were held on Saturday or Sunday from 9 to 3 at the
same location. All of the tenants were receptive and enthusiastic about the events.
• Tent events (i.e., Macy's) run for a time period of approximately 14
days, while a Farmers Market/French Market event will run for an entire
season. Staff is concerned that extensive time will be spent "monitoring"
these events especially during non -work hours. How will Staff costs be
covered?
Response: They have a full time porter service with the responsibility to maintain
the appearance and cleanliness of the site so that it stays pristine. Promenade
management will be on site when they are operating and they will have written
contractual agreements with the promoter to set forth standards that would go above
and beyond what the ordinance may require. The longest potential time period may
be from May to October.
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Cathy McMullin reviewed the site plan that indicated the location of the tents
showing that they would be in a contained area that flowed with an entrance and
exit. She identified the trash receptacles and available washroom facilities. Port-a-
potties were not suggested because they found during the car shows that the tenants
volunteered the use of their washroom facilities, which allowed people to venture
further from the car shows into the retail area. There will not be semi-trucks;.
typically the vendors use utility vans or flat bed trucks. The area indicated was
chosen because not much parking used there. If there are vans, they could use the
underground facility to keep them off the surface area. There are trees on the site
along the outside perimeter that would partition the vehicles from sight.
Member Lalmalani asked how the revenue would be monitored and documented?
Ms. McMullin said that the promoter would have to register with the Village and a
tally kept by the promoter. They also do not have control over the existing tenants
to know that every transaction is recorded. Her understanding is that the operation
is upfront.
Mr. Brechin noted that the promoters would have comparables from other farmers
markets so if there should be a significant variable from what is brought in from
other locations; they can hold the vendor accountable to have a correct
representation of what is sold. It is always in the promoter's best interest to make
sure that it is accurate.
Ms. McMullin said that she has been checking out promoters and in searching, she
would use the fact that it could be a windfall for all, once the use has been approved,
since there are no farmers markets currently located in Oak Brook. .
Director of Community Development Kallien thanked the applicant for addressing
all of his issues and concerns, which would also provide more information for the
Zoning Board of Appeals and the Village Board.
Member Lalmalani noted that Wheaton's farmers market does very well.
Ms. McMullin said that they had been in contact with them, and are looking at
alternate dates. The tenants are very happy that this would be going on in Oak
Brook and at the Promenade. There will be time over the winter to work out the
details with a promoter.
Member Singhal asked if 4 would be on the weekend or weekday and how many
vendors would be there.
Ms. McMullin responded that it would most likely be on a weekday. They anticipate
between 20 -40 tents, depending upon the promoter and the number of vendors.
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They also want to be able to control the traffic and flow.
Member Knitter said that he would love to have a fanners market at the Promenade,
but the information presented in the request is for a specific property and not all
other B district properties.
Mr. Brechin said that they would not have a problem making the request a special
use, rather than a permitted use. They want to have the permissibility to have the
farmers market in place by spring.
Director of Community Development Kallien responded that the issue was that the
request was for a very specific text amendment. As it moves forward, it could be
recommended that the text be a special use instead of a permitted use. The special
use could not be applied specifically to this property. In addition, there are legal
notice requirements and they would need to apply for approval of a specific special
use for this property.
Mr. Brechin responded that they have time to apply for the special use.
Member Sharma asked if stipulations could be added to the text amendment.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that changes could be made to the
text, but they did not have the right to approve a special use for the property as
requested. If it is stipulated as a special use, the use could occur in other B districts,
but they would need to apply for the special use.
Member Knitter agreed that it would be a good idea.
Member Lalmalani questioned whether there was a downside to making it a special
use.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that to make it a special use
would provide the Village more control over the use.
Motion by Member Knitter, seconded by Member Lalmalani to recommend
approval of a text amendment to allow, "farmers markets" as a special use in the B
Districts rather than as a permitted use as proposed. ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 6 — Members Knitter, Lalmalani, Sharma, Singhal, Tropinski and
Chairwoman Payovich
Absent:l — Member Iyer
Nays: 0 — Motion Carved.
5. NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business to discuss.
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NEW BUSINESS
6. OTHER BUSINESS OTHER
BUSINESS
7.
A. REVIEW PLAN COMMISSION DISCUSSION ISSUES
There was no other business to discuss.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion by Member Tropinski, seconded by Member Singhal to adjourn the meeting
at 9:04 p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
Robert Kallien, Direc or of mmunity Development
Secretary
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Plan Commission
Discussion Issues
ADJOURNMENT