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Minutes - 10/14/1999 - Safety Pathway Committee11 11 ,99 13. 25 'a847 439 ►1111 NSc;A r l" ` +` 1 OAK BROOK SAFETY PATHWAY COMMITTEE MINUTES OF MEETING, OCTOBER 14, 1999 1. Attendees Committee Members Present Steve mrshane John Hartman Tom Richardson Ron CuI'lum Sue Walters Also in attendance Howard Trier, Dale Durfey, Roy Cripe Ran Cullum was appointed temporary secretary in the absence of Tom Doyle. 2. Prior Minutes. Minutes of May 13, 1999, meeting were approved ur3&Nmou5ly 1 Project Updates a 22nd Street (by Roy Gripe) Fxm .;fie BW tit under the 186 tog way - IDOT is recommending two one wey paths (one on eec h side of 22"d Street). - There are 4 owners of property that w4l be needed Agreements have been reached with NICOR, Nlc',Donalds, and Franctuse Realty. So fv no agreement has been readheb with Bay Side Realty, which owns a small portion of the land_ -DOT plans to let the bids on !November 17, 1999, but only if all land deals arm clos*d by November 20, 1999. - Enwtng discussion noted the potenttal d9irulty of getting the land deals done in time. If the deal is not done soon, we may lose all the IDOT funding for this project - The committee also discussed the idea of having the path only on the soulh side of the street, which would take less room, and ertri*mte the need to cross 22" d Street at Jorie • Blvd. It was also noted that very few riders would seriously oboy one way bicycle paths The raanxmittee fait that having one path oWy on tt' a smth si; of the suet was preftwable to the IDOT recommendation. • b York Road (by Dale Durfey) South of Robin Head Ranch to the big bend in York Read - Contracts have been offered. Awaiting final approval This should be done by November 29 c. Midwest Road (by Dale Durfey) South from Saybrook on west side of 1Nidwest Road , Also, the curve by 35' Street win be reconfigured to move the path off the shoulder - The new paffi witl be done with the wKkmvig of tf�e street. - Bids to be let next spring - T+e coffin lttee noted its preference for the like trall to be on t1w east side of !!Midwest ors, the west side which is proposed, d. HargerNork Road bridges (by Dale Durfby) This proms is on hold awaiting a final decision as to whore will own the bridge. - Presently it is owned by -tie toll way, who wants to give it to the village However, the village is reluctant to take ►t, s►nee that will mean that the village will incur the costs of future maiTdenance_ Since there is now a village resident on the toil way board, we may be able to resolve the issue and proceed -page l Q1 U 3 1) (18 ,11, 11 99 13 • 26 $347 439 [)111 NSGA OAK BROOK SAFETY PATHWAY COMMITTEE e. Spring Road (by Dale Durfey) • On the side of Spnng Road from the Forest Preserve entrarw to Adams - We have a request to the Forest Preserve There is no proposal There is limited land available This could be a long way off 31' Streeet (by Bale Durf-ey) -On the south side of 31'' Street from Trinity Lane to Jorie Bind There mll be a separate bridge over Route 83_ - The design consultant is now back on track after being delayed several months He started last spring based on the ongAnal grant- However, there was a delay when the projected cost of the bridge exceeded the grant. Now IDOT has given its OK for the additional cost, and tt-ie project is proceeding. - The Phese 1 grant expires raid ne)d year_ We will have to seek en extensinn or re- apply since the design cannot be completed by then_ g. Regional Trail In Oak $rook the bziR wffl come under the i4poseveff bndcre over Spnng Creek, go on the south s+de of the Roosevelt frontage road, turn sov#h on both skies of York Road. the go east on Canterberry Lane. A new section wifi go from the east end of Canterbeny Lane along h�e W ways and under the Spnng Creek badge. - Llale has sect.ued - Weemeud with the presKdenf of Timber Trails on the route which will be all on existing right of way- - Steve received an update on the total b-al on October 13. - The engineer is fine tuning the alignments - There are 8 municipal governments involved They need ogreernent with all of them before proceeding - Elmhurst has their plan approved - They expect Phase 1 (design) to be completed in early 2001 Construction will take at • least 6 mriths, making completion in early 2002 at the earliest 4. ad Business none S. New Business a, $tnpim the Oaths, Howard Tner stated that he had seen deep parallel fissures in the path along 31" Street west of the Bath and Tennis Entrance He reported these to the village and they were fixed "immediately_" Howard, and the committee were impressed with flow responsive the village was to this problem. Howard also noted that there were problems with the pa#fi under .lone Blvd in that people had a tendency to nm into each other He noted that the Pad, District has put a center line stripe in the center of the paths on tt"r property_ The village will now do this to the Jorie Blvd. underpass. Upon drscussion of fire positive txenefits of the stnping, the committee will recommend to the village that all paths be striped. For safety Treasons, we recommend that the stripe be paint and not a material (like a tape) that cold be slippery and a safety hazard_ Page ;l r� 11 ,11, 9 13.26 U847 439 ()111 N5G:1 OAK BROOK SAFETY PATHWAY COMMITTEE • b Signage Program Ron Cullum {presented recommendations for a pathway sagnage program (see Attachment 1) which had four objectives 1. Make it easy for anyone (specifically including first time riders or walkers) to find their way from where they are to wherever they want to go. 2 Improve t#fe safety of all riders and pedestrians. 3 Let more people exploit the marry advantages of our partway system -t. Portray an even better image of Oak Brook After a discussion about the program and potential cost, the committee believed that there was merit to the program and something we should .pursue V\Athouf getting into the details of the design the committee approved the concept of a stgnage program The committee recommended that we present the signage program to the village and let them cost it out, and put the program into their next year budget, It was noted that the entire program did not have to be done at one time, and that there was a lot of room for changes, additions and deletions from what was presented e Protects and Priorities Ron Cullum presented a pies of prolecis and rrW repatrs tae had rQted wt*le tnspecttrrg the bicycle paths These are shown in Attachment 2. It was deeded that these would to con}bine with the other pros { aptal tmfxovements) the committee has ea( r6m nen&A and prior►ttzed and tha inure last will be the sul led of our next mo( tUng. d. Attef Mr= at M�mtlm* It was noted that at bmes it has been difficult to obtairi a quorum for the meetirgs While we have several members who do travel in their work, we must all redouble our efforts to participate whenever we are in town • It was also noted that Jim Cox has moved from Oak Brook and we will need a replacement for JTM both of these issues will be brought to the attention of Karen Bushy for her action- e New Officers John Hartman and Ron Cullum were elected co- chairmen of the committee for next year (with John bung the primary lead, and Ron backing him up) Tom Doyle will continue to be Secretary f Water Trails f car cefmq ) The issue of making Salt Creek available for canoeing was discussed While some communrttes are purse this, it will to a long Wit-, before Salt Creek to Oak Brook c;oUId be available for canoes since much of the creel is in private property q, Next Meeting The next meeting will be Tuesday, NoVambor 16, 1999_ h Adjourn Being no further business the meeting was adpumed at 9-00 PM. Ron Cullum, acting secretary • Page 3 r.� ,ll ll ,�t1 13: 27 $847 439 (1111 NSGA 0 (1(16 ()(18 r� • OAK BROOK SAFETY PATHWAY COMMITTEE EE Attachment 1 Oak Brook Bicycle Committee Sept=ber 14. 1999 Ronald L Cullum Signs (How to Find Your Way Around) Presently it is difficult in many cases to easily get from one location to another without a lot oftml -and error (even with a BikelHike Paths m,ap) I te?_zftim.eftd that we take a postttoii that would have four goals, 5 Make it easy for anyone (specifically including first time riders or walkers) to find their way from where they are to wherever they want to go 6 Improve the safety of all rirders and pedestrians 7. Let more people exploit the n=y advantages of our pathway system, 8 Portray an even better image of Oaf: Brook i believe that these goals can be accomplished vrith a combination of pathway signs (with directional arrows), displayed mts of the pathway system, improved road imrlangs, Bicycle crossing signs, markings on the paths, and "Welcome to Oak Brook" signs_ ThPqr- dine meld he nlari�d as foilowe Type of Sign Locabons Goals Met Place a nice sign saytng, "Wei-conic to York Road trear Graue Mill 1, 3, 4 Oakbrook Blcycle/Pedestri I Pathway east end of Canterbe", System" wherever a path enters Oak Timber Trails by the Spring Creek underpass Brook A map of the pathway system (when completed) should also be there Hambletonian (in Saddlebrook) Wyers R-o d ts-r 188 York hood near I83 Oak Brook Rd near Meyers Road 3 5'h Street tear Meyers Road A asap of the pathway system. (This At all locations wbtxe the path (or dcsigmted road 1, 3, 4 could be a clear plastic display winch shouldex) enters Oak .Brook, woWd hold the 8 '/," x i I" Bikr/Hik-e At all lo=ons where the }path (or designated road Paths" map we presently have We shoulder) entry a dcv6opmcnt Most of thr- should be able to replace the rnap developments (such as Brook Forest) will have 3 whenever it is updated to 5 such signs Seethe red "M" in a circle on the artachedmap for suggested locations A small bicycle sign (say 8' x 6") with These should be planed at every location where it 1. 2 the picture of a bike (similar to signs in is not immedbately obvious which way to go when the Forest preen e) There should also one comes to an mtersecnon or tomes w a strreet be an arrow showing the direction to the where the path is not immediately straight ahead ccmuinuatton of the path if not -obvious. See the an hed map with the red arrow markin8 most of the locations where such $ sign could be Crosshatch Cl aikings on siren. In Wherever the paih crosses any stmt 2 addition there should be a "Bicycle Crossing" sign on the street about 50 yards before the crossiwg (What is being presently done in Saddlebrook should be our mode Street caution signs saying something On all streets noted as such on the "Bikelfi-Dix 1,2 like "Designated Bicycle Pathway" Paths" ma -Page 4 11 ' 11 X99 13 : 27 U847 439 0111 NS(,A O t►►► 7 ►►t18 + to pb p p A u V 11 p n H N 11 b if N ■ Y y Y 1 u Y i{ Ott A It Y Y D Y A a 1 7 ■ R it to, n R A p N n . ► r•� v t� C_� ['> C� - S" r` 7Vi fi t) 1 c.l r>> firms .C• .. 4 �- � � W n7 rn � 0�• •n Sti C' �) •Y . � -G • � l 1 L� r � � -- -- 1 r i Q� m V L T_ P 1 i C?r ► : � i� � • • _ k- 2D4 _rte+ ' - - - - "- • " LO - � t % c� f -1 Z :c 7 J b L a n A 'IE T � 13 28 'x847 439 (1111 NSGA l `j OAK BROOK SAFETY PATHWAY COMMITTEE TEE Attachment 2 Oak Brook Bicycle committee Stpb --mb r 14. 1999 Ronald L Cullum Small Prcyi°rts or Improvements 1 The path from St Francis Circle to 31" Street in Trinity iakts should be eor t—ed Is has about a 50 foot space where you have to ride on grass t1wough a scowl If this is not clone now, it shcmld definitely be done when the 31' Street project ts done 2 The path along the 31 m Street bridge ovtr Salt Creek just eASt of �rllage Hail should be paved to the edge and marked for the bicycle path It presently has a lot of gavel and pot holes which make it a bit dangerous as you try to dodge the obstacles 3 The path m the Sports Core between Mr-Donald's and the semce road by the polo fields has a lot of loose gravel. The standard packed gavel path would b>e much better 4 The section of the bike path in the Sports Core along the road by the polo field and up to the Butler gulf arm it virtually u.nacceptabk for mad bikes_ This is hands down the worst portion of our entire path system 5 The 222r" Street path at the Salt Creek bndge >;=l to the Oak Bn uk f Cmn-=) that vrmneers the east/west path to the underpass is difficult to find, blocked with bushes, and virtually nonexistent It should be complctdy rcplaccd b. There is approximmely a 100 ft. section on the nom corner of Spring Road and 22➢a Street where there is no bike path. This should be completed to connect the path coming from the shopping center to the one going east on 2213d meet. 7 Spring Road at 16'h street 'there shotild be a way for someone to more easily get from Spring Road to the path on the south side of le Street without having to nde about a half block on the wrong side of the road to connect to the path -Presemly it is not safe 8 The padh on the north side of Spring Creek where it meets York Road is blocked by a gate that forces one to get off their bike and walk it around to cominue on the path This should be made so one does not need to d=== to nde tbrough the area 9 The connection from Spnng Road to the bicycle path just west of Gfvtie Mill is very bad A conpecting section should be built 10 The southeast corner of Jorie Boulevard and 22�d Street should have a connection to the street presently, for a person coming from the Oak Brook Shopping Center has to go several block south on Jorie to find a place to get onto the path This is not as safe as it could be 1 l Wbile already on the plans, I believe the connection from Canterberry Lane to the 1294 underpass should be top priority, Presently it is virtually impassible to anything but serious mountain bikers. 12 This is not a project, but a noted disappointment The new iNfidwest Road bridge across 188 has a bicycle path, but it is so marrow that one has to get off and walk his cr her bike if anyone else is coming the other way The sidewalk between Baybrook Lane a.nd the bridge is also narrower than outer paths, but it is passable. 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