Minutes - 10/01/2002 - Zoning Board of AppealsVILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES
October 1, 2002
1. CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting was called to order at 7:38 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Champ Davis
Members Richard Ascher
George Mueller
Manu Shah
Ayesha Zaheer
MEMBERS ABSENT: Member Louis Aldini
ALSO PRESENT: Village Trustee Alfred Savino
Village Engineer Dale Durfey
Director of Community Development Robert Kallien
A quorum was present.
Il. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chairman Davis requested that the minutes be amended and reviewed at the next regular meeting.
Member Shah moved, seconded by Member Zaheer to continue the approval of the September 3, 2002
Regular Zoning Board of Appeals meeting minutes to the next regular meeting.
VOICE VOTE: All in favor. Motion carried.
W. SPRIESER - 3423 SPRING ROAD - VARIATION - FENCE HEIGHT PROVISIONS
Chairman Davis swore in John Sprieser, the owner and applicant for the property located at 3423 Spring
Road. He is seeking to replace an existing 72 -inch chain link fence. He said that a letter of explanation is
contained in the petition file is very clear as to what he is seeking and he welcomed any questions.
Member Mueller noted from the submittal documents that a portion of the fence is being extended beyond
what originally exists. (The area is highlighted in green on page H of the petition file) Mr. Sprieser agreed.
Chairman Davis confirmed that they are seeking to construct a six -foot high chain link fence and
questioned what proportion is replacing the six -foot high chain link fence. Mr. Sprieser responded 85 %.
He noted that he does not know who built the fence. It was not the person that redeveloped the house in
1988 and was not the prior owner, or himself. He does not know why an approximate 50 -foot gap was left
in the chain link fence. They wish to replace it so that it is consistent with the remaining 150 feet of fence.
He said that he believes the fence has had to be there for at least 20 years.
Mr. Sprieser noted that the immediate neighbors have been notified.
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Chairman Davis noted that certain standards must be satisfied before a recommendation can be made.
Mr. Sprieser said that he responded to each of the standards in his submittal (on page F of the petition
file).
Member Mueller asked if there was a fence on the other side of the property. Mr. Sprieser responded that
there is a six -foot chain link fence located along the northern boundary of the property at 3515 Spring
Road. Another portion of his property has a 42 -inch wooden split rail fence and conforms to the code and
he is not changing that portion.
Member Ascher asked what kind of access there is onto his property from the forest preserve. It seems
like it might be difficult for people to get through the underbrush. Mr. Sprieser said that he has called the
police twice because people have come through onto his property. So have other people and if someone
is determined to get through they are going to. You could also walk around to the front of the house and
walk up the driveway too, but at least some effort has to be made to do that.
Chairman Davis said that the photos show where the chain link ends and where the split rail begins (on
photos numbered 5 and 6). He asked if the entire length of the split rail is as shown on those pictures and
Mr. Sprieser responded that it was.
Chairman Davis ask for a clarification of the response to the standards, wherein it was stated that the
majority of similarly situated neighboring owners have similar fences on their borders with the forest
preserve. Mr. Sprieser noted that there are two neighbors, but in all fairness, it is an overstatement to say
that the majority of similarly situated people along Fullersburg Woods have them.
Member Zaheer asked if the chain link fence was going on top of the existing concrete foundation or will
they be replaced. Mr. Sprieser said that, as he understands it they have to be set in concrete or the posts
will heave after a few years.
Chairman Davis noted that Mr. & Mrs. Sprieser have addressed the standards, which would apply to their
request for granting of the variation. It appears that the standards have been satisfied.
No one in the audience spoke in opposition to the request.
There were no other questions from the members.
Member Ascher moved, seconded by Member Shah that the petitioner has met the standards that are
necessary to recommend for approval of the Variation to the fence ordinance and the development shall
be in substantial with the plans as submitted.
ROLL CALL VOTE: Ayes: 5- Ascher, Mueller, Shah, Zaheer and Davis
Nays: 0-
Absent: 1 - Aldini
Motion Carried.
IV. PARILLE — 214 FOREST TRAIL— FLOOD PLAIN SPECIAL USE TO ALLOW A
DRIVEWAY AND A PORTION OF THE GARAGE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN
Chairman Davis swore in Anthony and Karyn Parille, the petitioners and owners of the property and Bill
Lorek, P.E., the consulting Engineer on the project. Mr. Lorek said that he is a registered Professional
Engineer in Illinois and a Civil Engineer with an office in Glen Ellyn, Illinois. He prepared the flood plain
calculations and the design of the grading and compensatory storage for the site.
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Mr. Lorek reviewed the request. Presently there is construction taking place on an addition at the rear of
the existing house that is not in the flood plain. They are proposing to add a 3 -car garage on the front of
the house. Presently the house has a driveway on the south side of the lot, which will be occupied by the
proposed garage or will be removed. A small stretch of it will be retained out to the street. They are
proposing to extend the drive into a horseshoe style in order to have access to the proposed garage. The
present driveway is not in the flood plain.
Although the area of house is above the flood plain elevation, by the street there is a base flood elevation
of 662.0 and the report from Mr. Durfey indicates that they believe the flood plain elevation will actually be
reduced next year. There have been some new studies and it will be lowered. However, at this time the
Parrilli's would like to finish their addition and get all the construction done so they can enjoy their home
and their neighbors would not have to deal with construction all through next summer. The 662.0 contour
comes just across the east end of the garage. There is actually a small amount of fill needed for the
driveway and the area as it crosses the road culvert.
The total fill is 1397 cubic feet, which is a small volume. If you took a typical two -car garage two feet deep,
that is about the volume of fill they are talking about. The Ordinance requires that they compensate for the
filling by excavating at a rate of 1.5:1 times the volume, which amounts to 2178 cubic feet, which is slightly
in excess of the requirement. They are proposing to offset the filling for the corner of the garage and a
little of the driveway by filling in the front area inside the driveway. They are also working to preserve oak
trees that are in the front of the property. The compensatory storage will be provided in the area between
the driveway and the street. It would start with a slight taper and would go down less than two feet in any
place.
The standards were read into the record at the meeting at the Plan Commission (page 9a of the petition
file). The Plan Commission recommended approval of the request subject to certain conditions.
Chairman Davis asked what would cause the flood plain to be amended. Village Engineer Durfey said
that DuPage County is doing a remapping with the state and FEMA and will take into account the dredging
that was done after the 1987 flood event as well as a remapping that Elmhurst accomplished further
upstream. The change will go from Roosevelt Road down to the Fullersburg dam by York Road.
Member Ascher commented that he lives down the street from the petitioner and the improvement to the
site is better for the entire neighborhood and being familiar with the area cannot see that it would cause
much damage or create a problem.
No one in the audience spoke in opposition to the request.
Member Ascher moved, seconded by Member Shah that the petitioner has met the standards that are
necessary to recommend for approval of the Variation to the fence ordinance and the development shall
be in substantial with the plans as submitted.
ROLL CALL VOTE: Ayes: 5-
Nays: 0 -
Absent: 1 -
Motion Carried.
V. OTHER BUSINESS
Ascher, Mueller, Shah, Zaheer and Davis
Aldini
There was no other business discussed.
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Vl. ADJOURNMENT
Member Mueller moved, seconded by Member Shah to adjourn the meeting.
VOICE VOTE: All in favor. Motion carried.
Meeting was adjourned at 8:02 p.m.
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Director of Comm 'r ffevelopment
Secretary
November 5, 2002
Date Approved
October 1, 2002