Minutes - 10/05/2004 - Zoning Board of AppealsMINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 5, 2004 REGULAR
MEETING OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS OF
THE VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK APPROVED AS
WRITTEN ON DECEMBER 7, 2004.
1. CALL TO ORDER: CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals was called to order by
Chairman Champ Davis in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler
Government Center at 7:30 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL: ROLL CALL
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairman Champ Davis, Members Richard Ascher, Robert
Sanford, Manu Shah and Steven Young
ABSENT: Member George Mueller ,
IN ATTENDANCE: Director of Community Development, Robert Kallien, Jr.
and Village Engineer, Dale Durfey.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MINUTES
REGULAR ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 7,
2004
Motion by Member Ascher, seconded by Member Mueller, to approve the
minutes of the September 7, 2004 Regular Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting as
written. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
A. BHARGAVA /GRAWAL — 722 FOREST GLEN LANE — VARIATION BHARGAVA/GRAW
AL - 722 FOREST
— TITLE 13 OF THE VILLAGE CODE - ZONING ORDINANCE GLEN LANE -
SECTION 13- 6D -3F -3 — VARIATION TO THE REAR YARD VARIATION - REAR
YARD SETBACK
SETBACK TO CONSTRUCT A ROOM ADDITION
Chairman Davis swore in ,Pradeep Bhargava, the petitioner and owner of the
property at 722 Forest Glen Lane.
Mr. Bhargava said that the application was based on hardships. There property
is one of the smallest in the subdivision. The house has a rear yard of thirty
feet.
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He advised the Board that he had updated information that is not contained in
the packets.
Today at 5 p.m. he had a meeting with Harry Peters, President of the Forest
Glen Homeowner Association and Frank Manus, his next door neighbor, who
had some reservation about the addition, that he did not have before. They
came to a compromise that the room addition would be reduced from 18 feet to
15 feet. The length would be extended from 21 feet to 25 feet, which would be
an additional 4 feet to the west. They concluded at 6 p.m. tonight, so they have
nothing in writing and did not have time to revise the plans. Based on those
changes, Mr. Peters said the Homeowner's Association would probably endorse
it.
Chairman Davis noted that the application had been amended to include the
deck.
Mr. Bhargava said that the Homeowner association is meeting on Wednesday.
Richard Olson, a member of the Forest Glen Homeowner Association, said that
there has been conversation around the neighborhood, but the Board of
Directors has not yet met to discuss this matter. They plan to do that at their
meeting on October 13, 2004. The meeting with Mr. Peters and Mr. Manus was
to get a better understanding of what was going on.
Chairman Davis asked if the Zoning Board of Appeals votes for a
recommendation, would that impact the decision of the homeowner association.
Mr. Olson responded that the Board will vote its own opinion of the situation.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that if the Homeowner's
Association objects to it, The Community Development Department is not
entirely bound by their ruling, but it does have a bearing on how the building
permit is processed.
Mr. Bhargava said that if one of the approval processes stops, it would become
a vicious cycle for him. If this matters moves forward to the Village Board, it
would allow everything to come together. If he does not get it moving, and it is
approved in the end, then he would not be able to build until next year. Each
body is independent and anyone can stop it. He needs approval from this board,
the Village Board, the Homeowners Association and then approval of a building
permit.
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Member Ascher addressed concerns that the plans have changed from 18 to 15
feet, the length of the structure has been changed from 21 to 25 feet, which was
all changed at 6 p.m. this evening and the petitioner wants to move his matter to
the Village Board next week.
Chairman Davis reviewed the revisions to the plan.
Mr. Bhargava said that he did not wish to change the plans. When the plans
were originally done, Mr. Manus, his next door neighbor, was the first person
he spoke to and he did not have a problem- with the plan then or for months. In
the last week, he sent e -mails of concern to Mr. Kallien and Mr. Bhargava felt it
necessary to address those concerns, because it was not fair to the neighbor, to
him, to the Zoning Board or to the Homeowner Association. So he went back
and talked to him and reached this compromise. It is not that he wanted to
change the plans, but he is reducing the encroachment facing the neighbor,
which is an easier thing to digest and understand. He is not trying to extend the
addition and the area under the roof will be the same. He was forced to get into
this situation because his neighbor changed his mind and that was his privilege.
Member Sanford said that in the order of approvals, ideally the Homeowner
Association should go first, then the Zoning Board, then to the Village Board.
However, for expediency sake, he did not think this Board would be usurping
its duty to reverse the order in this one instance. Mr. Young agreed.
Member Shah said that the point has been made that this was a last minute
change. The new dimensions have been explained and he feels very clear about
the revisions. In the past this Board has acted on sketches. The weather is
getting marginal. This Board should make the decision on the variation. Some
Zoning Board members are not aware of what individual homeowners groups
require. He believes the Zoning Board has sufficient information to act.
Chairman Davis said that the response to the standards were testified to at the
last meeting and are contained in the case file on pages F and F.1. The proposal
with the new drawing is on page 18 of the case file.
No one in the audience spoke in support of or in opposition to the request.
Chairman Davis advised the petitioner that he should be prepared to address the
issue of the homeowner's association at the Village Board meeting.
Motion by Member Shah, seconded by Member Sanford to recommend
approval of the variation for the construction of a room addition as verbally
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modified to encroach approximately 15 feet into the rear yard setback and
approximately 25 feet in length and the deck structure will also be reduced to
encroach approximately 15 feet into the rear yard setback. The structures are to
be built in substantial conformance to the plan submitted on page 18 of the case
file. The standards have been addressed on Pages F and F 1 of the case file.
The petitioner has testified that the situation is due to unique circumstances
which include: the lot is undersized being 14,000 square feet and the R -4
zoning district minimum standards are 18,000 square feet; it is a corner lot;
from an aesthetic standpoint it will not impact other homes in the
neighborhood; and the plans are to be revised to indicate the approved changes
and are to be submitted to the Village Board.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 4 — Members Sanford, Shah, Young and Chairman Davis
Nays: 1 — Member Ascher
Absent: 1 — Member Mueller. Motion Carried
5. NEW BUSINESS:
NEW BUSINESS
5. A. YORK ROAD PROPERTIES LLC — 2001 YORK ROAD — SPECIAL FORK ROAD PROP.
LLC - 2001 YORK
USE — TITLE 13 ZONING ORDINANCE — SECTION 13 -10E -2 — 0-4 ROAD- SPECIAL
DISTRICT — TO ALLOW A HELIPORT ON THE PROPERTY USE - HELIPORT
Chairman Davis swore in Charles Henschel, Vice President of Airport
Investment and Development and Fred Reynolds, Senior Vice President of
Development, both with CenterPoint Properties who were representing the
petitioner.
Mr. Henschel reviewed the request. They reside at 1808 Swift Drive and
have been in Oak Brook as a corporate resident for about 7 years. They are
a real estate investment trust and specialize in large industrial
developments. They are a publicly traded company and happy to be in
Oak Brook.
They are seeking a special use for a heliport at 2001 York Road which is
owned by the John Buck Company. They chose the site based on the
review and recommendation of the IDOT Department of Aeronautics who
visited and looked at several locations. This site was recommended as the
safest location and most logical location. The John Buck Company gave
them an agreement that they could operate it.
Chairman Davis asked for the details of the agreement.
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Mr. Henschel responded that it is a 7 acre parcel that adjoins a 5 story
building and an elevated parking structure that joins the lot they will be
operating on. It has been developed in such a manner that the John Buck
Co. could develop another building there, but it would require additional
elevated parking in order to accommodate the building. Mr. Buck does not
see a need for it at the present time and the market has not demanded it.
He told them that they could use the real estate as long as it was available;
and with 90 days notice they have agreed to vacate the property if he chose
to develop it for an office building or another use.
Chairman Davis asked what was involved in constructing a heliport.
Mr. Henschel said that there is an existing asphalt pad on the location. It
would require some additional striping and additional landscaping and a
small additional piece of asphalt pad to raise the area 3 or 4 inches to
provide for reasonable runoff and to keep the area clear of ice or snow in
the winter time. Beyond that, it requires the IDOT Department of
Aeronautics subsequent review and approval, after they have made their
preliminary review.
Chairman Davis asked the petitioner to address the standards.
Mr. Henschel said that the standards are first set forth first by IDOT
Transportation and Aeronautics. They were presented with preliminary
engineering, reviewed it and it was indicated that it met the state criteria
and would meet the FAA criteria. They indicated before IDOT could
grant their approval, the Village had to approve it.
Mr. Henschel said that the FAA and IDOT have fairly stringent safety
standards. There cannot be any obstructions in the surrounding area. It is
required to provide a 5 to 1 slope for access and egress for both for the
primary and secondary access points, that would provide ample safe access
and egress of a helicopter in windy conditions. Since the request is for
daylight use only, it would not require any addition of lighting or any other
avionic equipment, like beacons or the like. They provided a response to
the type of operation, safety, noise limitations set forth in the Village Code
to the Plan Commission and they identified and responded to those
requests.
Chairman Davis said that one of the Village's standards is that the special
use is so designed, proposed and operated so that the public health, safety
and welfare would be protected. He questioned that this is a similar safety
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standard as required by IDOT and the FAA
Mr. Henschel responded that it is; and IDOT and the FAA have it as their
primary concern for the safety of the surrounding residences and office
tenants.
Chairman Davis asked that he address the second standard for a special use
which is that the proposed use would not cause substantial injury to other
property in the neighborhood.
Mr. Henschel responded that they specifically chose this location because
it was surrounded by office buildings and felt that it would add an asset to
the community much more than it would be a detriment.
Chairman Davis noted the location was surrounded by office buildings and
two tollways and asked what was discussed by the Plan Commission.
Mr. Henschel said that the consensus of Plan Commission was that the
design would be in accordance with the Village and IDOT; that the hours
of operation would be between the hours of 7 a.m. and 10 p.m. during the
week and only on Sunday with advance notice; no refueling, maintenance
or storage; it would only be there for picking up passengers leaving and
bringing back the passengers and lift off.
Mr. Henschel said that the helicopter is not owned; it is leased for
approximately 20 hours per month. It is not used for convenience; it is
used as a mainstay to their business which is large industrial developments.
It is likely that the use would be six times per month and in no way would
it exceed ten times per month. If they every felt it they would require more
than that the Village would need to be contacted for that.
Jim Slinkman, Associate General Counsel for Advocate Health Care was
sworn in by Chairman Davis. He said that Advocate is in a one -story
building located at 2025 Windsor Drive. They have some concerns
regarding the heliport. The flight path is immediately over their building
and they have invested a substantial amount of money in the property over
the last two years to build a parking garage. They have a grave concern
that a flight path that goes over the top of their building would severely
damage their property in terms of the future value of their property. It is an
old one -story warehouse. If they would decide in the future to build
another building, they would be severely impacted by the flight path going
right over it, so there would be damage to their property. The parking lot
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is about 60 yards from their building, which they think is too close for their
employees as well as people visiting their building. Advocate is familiar
with aircraft and operates helicopters for patient safety to various hospitals,
not for corporate convenience, and they are a dangerous business in terms
of crashing. They believe that the way Windsor Drive curves around to the
north of their property people do not follow the posted traffic limits, and
their fear is that with helicopters it can only increase traffic safety as well
as helicopters crashing.
Chairman Davis asked the applicant to address the concerns.
Mr. Reynolds said that they did receive some notification back from
Advocate Health and some others in the file and they did try to responsibly
address those concerns and clean up any misconceptions. They did
respond to the President and CEO of Advocate and personally hand
delivered a letter to the office of the President and CEO of Advocate.
Mr. Slinkman said that he did not see the letter because the President is out
of the country.
Mr. Reynolds summarized what was in the letter. He said that they do rely
on the safety as required by the IDOT Dept. of Aeronautics as well as the
FAA. The helicopter uses pretty much a vertical ascent and descent. The
flight paths shown are in the event a helicopter has to land in high winds
that they do come in a horizontal approach. The normal practice will be
vertical and the primary approach is over York Road and the approach over
Advocate would be the secondary approach. He cannot see where there
would be property damage in a typical operation. This,is not an illusion of
"executive convenience" as it was referred to. Quite to the contrary, they
have over 46,000,000 outstanding shares of common traded stock at
CenterPoint and they do tour from time all the analysts and stockholders
that want to see their properties. They also have clientele that want to see
properties. These are scheduled tours as needed on the request of their
customers as well as the ownership to tour properties. They have
39,000,000 square feet of industrial property in the greater Chicagoland
area which is very difficult to get to by car. These are very large acreage
properties ranging from 100 to 2200 acres and they have 3200 acres of
vacant land that is entitled for development that they tour from time to
time. They also take out public officials to see how certain developments
fit into their community. It is a multi - purpose use which is quite contrary
to executive convenience.
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Mr. Henschel commented that a private heliport and special 'use permit
does not take away any property rights. If Advocate decides to build a 6-
story building, then they have to find alternate means to come and go. It is
not a fixed wing public airport.
Chairman Davis asked if it is normal that the helicopter travels vertically
and that the flight paths shown on the plans signify when the helicopter is
not flying vertically. Mr. Henschel agreed and said that in general unless
winds prevent otherwise the helicopter will not be approaching or
departing over Advocates property. They will ascent to 1,000 feet. A
helicopter does not hover for any length of time.
Mr. Young said that if Advocate raises the height of the building, the FAA
would appropriately adjust whatever flight restrictions they have over that
building.
Mr. Slinkman said that they have had terrible experiences with the FAA in
terms of building heights as it relates to the area surrounding O'Hare
airport. They understand that there may be a difference between a heliport
and a fixed wing airport.
Chairman Davis noted that Advocate has an absolute right to construct a
building up to 5 stories without the need of a public hearing.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that Advocate would
only need to apply for a building permit to construct a 5 -story building. He
asked how the FAA would be notified.
Mr. Henschel said that the operator is required and bound by the operator
agreement to get in touch with IDOT and have its Flight Safety Inspector
come out to inspect the site. This is the inspector who comes out and
inspects the site on a bi- annual basis.
Member Young questioned whether the petitioner has checked any
vibration issues that may impact the buildings. Mr. Heschel responded that
they reviewed the vibration criteria set forth in the Village Code and they
were told by the helicopter operator that it fell well within the Code and
will not be any problem to comply with.
Member Young questioned what type of helicopter would be used. Mr.
Henschel said that it was a Euro - copter AS 355 multi - engine capable of
carrying 5 passengers.
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Member Young questioned the Village's ability to respond to an aircraft
accident appropriately. Director of Community Development Kallien said
that ultimately that is a question only the public safety personnel could
answer. However, they handle any call that comes. Currently, the Village
is within the flight paths of O'Hare airport. There is a fully functioning
heliport at McDonald's right now and helicopters do land there. There have
been a number of these special uses approved over the years. Currently,
there is one at OAG that is not operative right now. Given the prior
approvals he would say that the Village is comfortable with that type of
feature in the community. There are conditions in terms of fueling on site,
and then the Fire Dept would be involved. There are helicopters that come
into the Village now to bring in air conditioning units for the office
buildings and the shopping center.
Member Young questioned if public safety assistance would be provided
when they land.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that they do not
currently provide that with the McDonald's special use. There are special
provisions in place for McDonald's. They do adhere to the requirements
that the Village has set forth for heliports.
When the Plan Commission reviewed this matter they had not heard from
Advocate or .the Homeowner Association. They did forward their best
information to the Zoning Board and then this Board also gets the benefit
of the public hearing notice.
Chairman Davis asked them what their plans were from a timing
standpoint.
Mr. Henschel said that it will take about 60 -90 days to fulfill the
requirements by IDOT and at the same time they intend to apply to the
Village for an asphalt permit. Hopefully, they would be able to get the
asphalt in this fall.
Chairman Davis said that Mr. Slinkman has not had a chance to review his
letter with his client. The Zoning Board just received a letter from the
Forest Glen Homeowners Association and he believes their concerns
should be addressed. One of the concerns is that the helicopter would be
hovering overhead in the morning or evening.
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Mr. Henschel responded that they also have just seen the letter and do not
have any intention of hovering at all. Mr. Reynolds responded that in
response to the additional traffic theory, he said that any additional traffic
is negligible. The total operation of a tour is that it is booked from days to
4 hours in advance. Typically it would be after 9 a.m. and would be a 2 to
3 hour tour. They would meet at the heliport by car, so no real stress of
additional traffic. They are up and on their way, there is no hovering like a
traffic helicopter would do over the highway like they do for news radio.
The whole operation from car to helicopter to takeoff is approximately
under five minutes. The same thing happens in reverse when they land.
They are not on York or 22nd Street. The noise relating from hovering is
not then intent or a likely practice.
Chairman Davis said that there is a buffer of trees between the site and the
Forest Glen Homeowner Association. Mr. Reynolds said that it is
approximately one -half mile from the site.
Chairman Davis asked what the noise standards were. Director of
Community Development Kallien said that they are required to follow the
Village's Performance standards and they have responded to those on page
H of the case file. The basic standard is 72 decibels, which is similar to a
lot of other noise ordinances.
Member Young said that 72 decibels would be comparable to a loud car
stereo, maybe a little louder. Most standard machinery in an industrial
plant operates around 50 -60 decibels.
Mr. Henschel said that their operator indicated that they could meet the
local zoning requirements with respect to noise. He also said that the
substantial amount of noise is within the direct proximity below the
landing and takeoff area. It does not migrate to a large amount; it migrates
vertically, but not horizontally. It's there and it is gone.
Mr. Reynolds added that the Performance Standards as required by
Ordinance would be met. He added that another comment in the letter is
that there are other heliports in the area. They have not had any luck
accessing McDonald's heliport. O'Hare airport, Joliet as well as a
construction site in McCook, which has been deemed to be a legal spot to
land is typically where they have gone. These sites tend to be intermittent
and the need is such that they need to have something to rely on at least for
the short haul.
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Chairman Davis said that he hoped that Mr. Slinkman's concerns have
been addressed. In view of the fact that the Zoning Board of Appeals
makes a recommendation and the Village Board has to pass and approve
this request, they will have a further chance to review their letter with the
CEO and if there are still concerns, Advocate would be able to present
them to the Board of Trustees, which is a safety factor and the Village
Board would consider their concerns very seriously.
Mr. Reynolds said that as a good neighbor they would be happy to sit
down with them and discuss any issues with them.
Member Young said that he does not think that noise is going to be the
issue from a public safety standpoint. The greater risk is going to come
from traffic, people watching the aircraft coming in and out, so there will
be the probability of accidents happening in and along the streets.
Vibration is still going to happen. The noise is a temporary issue.
Chairman Davis said that it appears that the standards have been met in
writing and in testimony by the petitioner for the grant of a special use.
The matter has been before the Plan Commission and they have
recommended approval unanimously, subject to conditions set forth in the
recommendation letter from Chairwoman Payovich on pages 14 and 14.a
of the case file.
Motion by Chairman Davis, seconded by Member Shah that the petitioner
has addressed the special use standards on page F of the case file and the
Performance standards have been met as required on page H of the case
file to recommend approval of the special use request for the heliport as
proposed to be located at 2001 York Road.
1. It is to be operated as detailed on page G and G -1 of the case file.
2. The proposed special use is deemed reasonable and does not appear
to jeopardize the public health, safety or general welfare of any
party.
3. The use is to be limit to no more than 10 times per month, 7 a.m. to
10:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday. It may not be used on
Sunday unless the Village of Oak Brook is notified and has
approved the use in advance.
4. Operation of the proposed heliport will be constructed and operated
in accordance to the Village of Oak Brook and IDOT standards.
5. Operation of the proposed heliport is predicated on receiving IDOT
approval.
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ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 4 — Members Ascher, Sanford, Shah, Young and Chairman Davis
Nays: 0 —
Absent: 2 — Member Mueller. Motion Carried.
Chairman Davis suggested that the petitioner get in touch with Mr.
Slinkman from Advocate Health.
Director of Community Development suggested that the Petitioner also get
in touch with the Forest Glen Homeowner Association prior to the Village
Board Meeting.
5. B. BUTLER NATIONAL GOLF CLUB — 2616 YORK ROAD —
VARIATION — TITLE 9 — STORMWATER, FLOODPLAIN and
SEDIMENTATION AND EROSION CONTROL REGULATIONS —
SECTION 9 -6 -3.V — TO ALLOW THE RELOCATION OF BUNKERS
AND TEE BOXES WITHIN THE FLOODWAY OF SALT CREEK
Chairman Davis swore in the petitioner's Patrick Kelsey, Environmental
Resources Manager and Darren Olson, Water Resources Engineer, both
with Christopher B. Burke, Engineering.
Mr. Kelsey said that they need a variance from the Oak Brook Ordinance,
which mirrors the DuPage Countywide Stormwater Ordinance for a
variance in the floodplain in that recreational use of a golf course in the
floodway is specifically excluded as a use within the floodway. Butler Golf
Course is unique in that 55 acres, which is approximately 32% of the golf
course, is in the floodway not the floodplain. The floodway is that portion
of the area that floods during a 100 -year flood that has flowing water in it.
It is unique not only in the Village, but throughout the county there are a
number of places that have golf courses in the floodplain; but the floodway
is very constricted. In the case of Butler it occupies a third of the course.
The request for this variance, which is supported by the DuPage County
Stormwater Committee, is to allow the bunkers and tees to be realigned to
take them out of the floodplain storage and to raise the tees up out of the
floodway. The reason to do this is to improve the play of the course and to
protect the tees during a 100 -year flood event. No one expects that the tees
or greens would be playable during an event or immediately after, but the
course wants the ability to return to its use as soon as possible after a flood
event. This will allow them to return the course to use more quickly.
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Chairman Davis commented that it 1987 it look a while to clear the water
off the course.
Mt. Kelsey responded that for those that recall those days, and recall the
implementation of the County Stormwater Ordinance that was an issue.
Subsequently, the interpretation by the County has been a standing
condition where in golf course uses and changes at other courses on Salt
Creek were allowed without variances. DuPage County did not see fit in
this case to support that viewpoint and asked them to obtain a variance
through the Village. It is an allowable use under the state rules which the
county has been delegated by the State of Illinois; the County has a more
restrictive standard.
Chairman Davis said that it is his understanding that no structures are
being built it is simply relocating and rebuilding bunkers and tees.
Mr. Kelsey said that there are no bridges or building structures, it is simply
re- grading within the floodway.
Chairman Davis asked that they respond to the standards required for
approval of the variation.
Mr. Kelsey said that the standards that need to meet are as follows.
1. Subsection K of 9 -12 -1, that a variance in the floodway would not
be less restrictive than the state or federal regulations. In this case
those regulations would be the Illinois Department of Natural
Resources Office of Water Resources Federal Emergency
Management Agency. They are not outside the standards imposed.
2. They need to meet the requirements that there will not be additional
expenses outside of Butler National Golf Course. All of the
expenses for these impacts in terms of flood protection will be
incurred on Butler National Golf property alone. However, the
relocation has allowed the Club an opportunity to provide some
environmental enhancements with some of the water features on
the course and to eliminate some existing minor erosion problems,
so it will be an environmental improvement. Additionally, there
will be significant new landscape plants to enhance the play of the
course.
3. The flood elevations will not be changed off site, either upstream or
downstream as a result of this project. This is the key provision to
everyone when you look at whether or not any impacts should be
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granted in the floodway is whether there will be any impacts
upstream or downstream from the site. They will all be incurred
within the site. DuPage County rules and Village rules require that
they do compensation within the same hydraulic cross - section of
the Creek. They have been able to accommodate that condition; the
hydraulic impacts are truly minor.
4. In every way they are in compliance with Title 9.
5. They have gone through a technical review with the Village's
consultant, Earth Tech and have satisfied their concerns as well as
the Village Engineer's concerns.
Chairman Davis noted that they have addressed the standards in Book C,
Tab 6 on pages 4 or 5.
No one in the audience spoke in support or in opposition to the request.
Mr. Kelsey said that this matter has been approved by the Stormwater
Committee at the County.
Member Ascher said that after the 100 year flood there was remediation
effort through the County and to store the water somewhere and it seems
that we do not have as much of problem with flooding. Does this effect
what we might see in the future as to the 100 -year flood as to how high it
might get.
Mr. Kelsey responded that the 100 -year one hundred year flood plain has
been amended as the result of a number of reservoir projects, Wooddale,
Elmhurst, Itasca, Chicago, Stone, a number of online reservoirs, the West
Wood Creek Reservoir and the West Busse Wood Reservoir is being
modified. after 15 years of discussion. That lowers the peak of the major
flood event, but it prolongs the time that there is flooding within the flood
plain area at lower elevations to below the 10 year event. What we see are
lower peaks, but more prolonged flood events. The damage comes to many
environmental conditions and particularly turf when it is submerged for
long periods of time. So moving tees out of the 100 year floodway allows
them to remain in better shape during the flood event. Those projects have
had a significant impact. One of the intended consequences to reduce flood
damage is to have a flood that lasts for a longer period of time; smaller
floods are more prolonged as detention basins release at a slower rate.
Mr. Kelsey addressed the comments in Village Engineer Durfey's
memorandum.
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Chairman Davis said that it appears that the standards have been met in
writing and in testimony by the petitioner for the grant of the variation.
Member Sanford motioned, seconded by Member Young to recommend
approval of the variation to Title 9 as requested, subject to the following
conditions:
1. The development shall be constructed in substantial conformance with
the plans as submitted in Books labeled C and D as part of the case file.
2. Address all comments set forth in Village Engineer Durfey's
memorandums.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 5 — Members Ascher, Sanford, Shah, Young and Chairman Davis
Nays: 0 —
Absent: 1 — Member Mueller. Motion Carried.
5. C. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK — TEXT AMENDMENT TITLE 13 —
ZONING ORDINANCE — CHAPTER 14 — ADMIINISTRATION AND
ENFORCEMENT — AN AMENDMENT TO THE NOTIFICATION
REQUIREMENTS
Director of Community Development Kallien said that on September 20,
2004 the Plan Commission recommended to concur with the staff report
recommendation to enhance our public notification requirements.
At the present time our notification procedures are completely within the
guidelines of the state statutes. A public notice is placed in a newspaper of
general circulation within the community summarizing the request and the
date, time and location of the public hearing within 15 days of the hearing.
Not everyone reads the newspaper so all property owners within 250 feet
of the subject property receive a letter summarizing the request and the
date, time and location of the public hearing. The names are obtained
directly from the Assessor's office. There are times that people have taken
exception that they have received one. We felt that there was a need to
take a final step to ensure public awareness of public hearings. Most
communities in the region employ the standard of requiring that a
temporary sign be placed on the property stating that it is the subject of a
public hearing. If someone does not read it in the newspaper, or receive a
notice, and they live in the area, they will probably drive past it. The sign
is meant to get your attention and basically get the public to call the
Village. If someone is not reached by one of those mechanisms at least the
Village has done its best in its notification efforts. As a courtesy, we also
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send a letter to all the active homeowner associations that are recognized
by the Village so that they can inform those in their subdivisions.
Language has been proposed that require the signs be placed to identify the
location of placement on the property, when it should be put up and taken
down. The Plan Commission did ask staff to explore the option of the
Village making the sign and charge a small fee from the applicant so that
there was a uniformity of what the sign said. He checked with the Director
of Public Works and was told that they could be made. They could have a
white face measuring 2'x 3' with a red border around it to draw people's
attention, to notify that a public hearing was being planned for the property
and to call the Village. The Village would place the sign and pick it up
when the public hearing was over.
Chairman Davis said that personally he believes it is a good idea.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that properties with
multiple frontages would be required to place a sign on each street. It is a
logical step and addresses issues brought to the hearing bodies that they did
not know about a hearing.
Member Ascher said that he has seen this done in many locations and he
thinks that it has a good purpose. He asked who would incur the costs.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that if we kept an
inventory of 6 to 8 signs, Public Works Director Meranda said that they
would cost approximately $30 each. It would take a few minutes to put
them up and take them down. We charge a fee that is part of our Code for
all public hearing applications. It could be amended slightly so that the
applicants would subsidize the creation and maintenance of the signs,
which is more than fair.
Member Young said that in some communities he has seen signs that are as
big as billboards and we may want to limit the size.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that he has proposed the
signs to be 2' x 3', which is compatible with the acceptable signs allowed
in the Village. Billboards are not allowed in the Village.
No one in the audience spoke in support of or in opposition to the request.
Chairman Davis said that the Zoning Board of Appeals is in receipt of the
Plan Commission Chairwoman's letter of recommendation. The vote was
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for unanimous approval with several conditions. The proposed text
amendment would promote the health, safety and general welfare of the
public and would not diminish property values.
Motion by Member Shah, seconded by Member Young to recommend for
approval the application of the Village of Oak Brook to revise the text of
the Zoning Ordinance as proposed, subject to the following:
1. The Village should manufacture, place, remove and maintain the
public hearing signs.
2. The Village should amend its fee schedule to pass on the costs to
the applicants.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: 5 — Members Ascher, Sanford, Shah, Young and Chairman Davis
Nays: 0 —
Absent: 1 — Member Mueller. Motion Carried.
6. OTHER BUSINESS:
There was no other business to discuss.
7. ADJOURNMENT:
Motion by Member Shah, seconded by Member Ascher to adjourn the meeting
at 9:17 p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
Robert L. Kallien, Jr.
Robert Kallien, Director of Community Development
Secretary
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