Minutes - 05/15/2017 - Plan CommissionVILLAGE of MINUTES OF THE MAY 15, 2017
O A K BR921,,K REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLAN COMMISSION OF THE
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
APPROVED AS WRITTEN ON JUNE 19, 2017
I. CALL TO ORDER: CALL TO ORDER
The Meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairwoman Tropinski
in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler Government Center at 7:02 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL: ROLL CALL
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairwoman Marcia Tropinski, Members Thomas Doyle, Naveen
Jain, Raj Lal, and Kenneth Wilczak (arrived 7:11 p.m.
ABSENT: Members Raju Iyer and Simon Sheers
IN ATTENDANCE: Trustee Mom Saiyed, Development Services Director Robert
Kallien, Planner Rebecca Von Drasek and Planning Technician Gail
Polanek
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF FEBRUARY 13. 2017 FEBRUARY 13,
2017
Motion by Member Lai, seconded by Member Doyle to waive the reading of the
minutes and to approve the minutes of the February 13, 2017 Special Plan
Commission meeting as written. VOICE VOTE: Motion Carried.
4. NEW BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS
A. ROCK SUGAR. INC — 2022 SPRING ROAD — SPECIAL USE — OUTDOOR ROCK SUGAR -
DINING ADJACENT TO A RESTAURANT zozz SPRING OUTD RD
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Brian MacKellar, Senior vice President of Development for The Cheesecake Factory
provided a review of the request and noted that it also owns the Rock Sugar
restaurant. He said that they were seeking approval of a special use for an outdoor
dining area adjacent to the new restaurant.
Conceptual pictures of the proposed restaurant and outdoor dining area were shown.
He noted that Rock Sugar Pan Asian cuisine restaurant is an upper level chef driven
restaurant. Their Chef Mohan Ismail is the Executive Chef, is a highly acclaimed
chef of southern Asian cuisine, and is originally from Singapore. This is their
second location; the original location is near their founder's residence in Century
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City, California. They have been developing the restaurant for almost 10 years and
this is the first time that they have ventured into a new area and are very excited
about it coming to Oak Brook.
They consider patios an integral part of restaurants. Many people love them
especially when the weather is great. He reviewed the design of the patio. He
noted that the patio would sit on an area occupied by 9 parking spaces. The
Cheesecake Factory is located just north of the proposed Rock Sugar restaurant,
which is an independent restaurant. A small portion of the Cheesecake Factory that
was used for offices is being rebuilt as part of the new restaurant's kitchen. A
service area will be jointly used by both restaurants. The restaurant entrance faces
the ring road and he reviewed the interior design noting the open kitchen area.
The patio area has bollards that are used as lighting supports and supports the glass
railing system. The bollards are to ensure the safety of the patrons from an errant
vehicle. Handicapped spaces were added to the parking area and a stop sign was
added to provide a safe crossing area. They are not planning to add another valet
area and it is their intention to use the existing Cheesecake Factory valet service for
this restaurant as well. There will be a sign in front of the restaurant directing
people to the valet and this should help with the traffic flow in the area. Planters,
very similar to those used in front of the Cheesecake Factory, will be placed in front
of the restaurant to continue the flow and will also contain bollards for additional
safety support. The bollard details to be used along the patio area are spaced every
four feet. He also reviewed the materials being used on the building and the
furniture. There will be speakers mounted to the cornice and he noted that the
company is obsessed about the quality of the music and they are not about volume.
The original owner of The Cheesecake Factory was a musician, who was concerned
with the quality of the background music, and personally picks the songs played.
The landscaping material chosen for this area will be fully -grown and will be quite
dense at the time of the restaurant opening.
Member Doyle commented that the patio is south facing and the landscape appears
to be rather short in height. He asked if consideration was given to add landscaping
to provide more shade, especially when the sun is intense. Mr. MacKellar agreed
and said that was their intention and he would ensure the plantings would be quite
tall, maybe around 6 -7 feet in height.
Member Lal thanked the applicant for the detailed presentation. He questioned with
the large number of patrons on the patio whether it would be congested and cause a
safety issue, especially with the elderly population and handicapped.
Mr. MacKellar responded that they have 40 years of restaurant experience and are
diligent about pathway widths and separation compliance. He noted that many of
the tables were meant to be put together for larger parties. However, many times, a
table for four, may only be used by two patrons. The design of the tables and space
is to adequately provide for the elder and handicapped.
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Director Kallien responded that there are building and fire codes in place to ensure
that the space does not exceed the occupancy load and that at all times there should
be clear means of egress and exit. Mr. MacKellar added that even with serving
patrons it is important to maintain the passageways and aisles.
Member Wilczak questioned whether other restaurants have outdoor music noting
he was concerned with the music facing the hotel. Mr. MacKeller responded that
they would provide background music as is also used at the Cheesecake Factory.
Director Kallien added that the Oakbrook Center also has tenant guidelines that
regulate sound in the outdoor dining areas, which are more restrictive than the
Village.
Member Jain questioned the traffic at the parking entrance and questioned with the
traffic was an issue for the outdoor dining area. Mr. MacKeller responded that it
was not an issue and added that the Cheesecake Factory outdoor dining area abuts
the ring road, which is even busier than what is proposed.
There were no additional questions by the Commissioners and no one in the
audience commented in support or in opposition to the request.
Motion by Member Lal, seconded by Member Doyle to recommend approval of the
proposed special use for outdoor dining, subject to the following conditions:
1. The development of the outdoor dining area shall be in substantial
conformance with the plans as submitted and approved.
2. The restaurant will be responsible for maintaining and cleaning the outdoor
area and shall comply with all applicable requirements of the DuPage
County Health Department.
3. The outdoor dining area will be operated in accordance with the following
rules of operation:
a. A maximum seating capacity for 64 patrons may be provided in the
outdoor dining area.
b. There will be no live entertainment in the outdoor dining area.
4. Comply with all other applicable rules and ordinances of the Village of Oak
Brook, including maintaining required aisle width at all times.
5. Add the provision "Notwithstanding the attached exhibits, the applicant shall
meet all Village Ordinance requirements at the time of building permit
application except as specifically vaned or waived."
ROLL CALL VOTE
Ayes: 5 — Members Doyle, Jain, Lal, Wilczak and Chairwoman Tropinski
Nays: 0 —
Absent: 2 — Member Iyer and Sheers. Motion Carried.
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4. B. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK — 1200 OAK BROOK ROAD — TEXT vos - TEXT
AMENDMENT -
AMENDMENT — ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 13 -12 -4J — PARKING PARKING
STRUCTURE REGULATIONS STRUCTURE
REGULATIONS
Director Kallien reviewed the current regulations for parking structures. He noted
that there are very large setbacks for parking lots abutting streets that can be 100 feet
or more. The Code is silent when it comes to the side yard or rear yard, especially
those yards that abut residential areas. He used examples such as the Woodside
Estates and Forest Glen subdivision that abuts commercial properties with a parking
lot located within 10 feet of the property line. Harger Road and Commerce Drive
abutting Steeplechase and the York Woods Subdivision that abuts the Drake Hotel
with parking lots located 10 feet from the property line. The goal as directed by the
Village Board was to create requirements that would treat a parking deck different
from a parking lot and should be treated more like a principal structure.
If the parking deck were 20 feet high, the proposed language if adopted would
require that that for every foot in height would require the setback be increased by 2
feet resulting in a 50 -foot setback. He added that Mr. Huffman from the Duchossois
added some text to help clarify the amendment.
If the Drake would build a parking deck that would abut the properties in York
Woods, a 45 -foot structure would move to a 100 -foot setback, which would be the
same rule that applies for the principal building.
He noted that to date there has not been a problem, but as Oak Brook redevelops,
there may be opportunities for some conflicts. As part of the overall zoning update
review, this language would be included. There was a sense of urgency by the
Village Board to review it separately. It would only affect the area of the
commercial property where it abuts the residential, not the entire parcel. He had
talked to some commercial developers that believed this was fair.
Barbara Lang, 50 Windsor Drive, resident of the York Woods subdivision said that
she was concerned about the setback and was concerned about the noise and the
light pollution. She hoped that the architectural design would also be taken into
consideration. The lights that would shine into the residential and the noise and light
would be reflected towards the houses. Even though the setback would be 100 feet,
when in the parking structures at Oakbrook Center you can hearing the cars
whizzing through and the noise is substantial. At night, the sound would intensify.
The architect should address those concerns along with the lighting and noise.
Director Kallien responded that the Ordinance requires that a parking structure
fagade be similar to that of the principal building. As part of the review, there are a
number of ordinances that the source of light as well as the regulation of sound is included.
The proposed language is a good step to address the concern of parking decks being
located near the resident areas.
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Member Lal commented that he believed the corporate residents want to be good
neighbors and sensitive to its residential neighbors.
Director Kallien said that a corporate entity such as Duchossois may be different
than a mall type use as there are people coming and going and do not have the same
ownership level. The village has to step in to have safeguards.
Director Kallien noted that over the next couple of months the village would get in
touch with businesses that would be impacted by this to know and be part of the
rules that will be adopted. The public hearing would then go before the Zoning
Board of Appeals. The text would apply to any new deck or expansion of an
existing deck.
Motion by Member Wilczak, seconded by Member Lal to recommend approval of
the proposed text amendment as follows:
4. Setback: For any new parking structure or addition to an existing parking
structure that abuts a residential use and/or residential zoning district, the
setback of such parking structure or addition from the lot line upon which such
residential use is located and from such residential zoning district shall be at
least ten feet (10') plus two feet (2') for every one foot (1') in height of the
parking structure, as measured from existing grade to the highest wall elevation
of the parking structure, up to a maximum required setback of one hundred feet
(100').
ROLL CALL VOTE
Ayes: 5 — Members Doyle, Jain, Lal, Wilczak and Chairwoman Tropinski
Nays: 0 —
Absent: 2 — Member Iyer and Sheers. Motion Carried.
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. ZONING CONSULTANTS, TESKA ASSOCIATES — COMPREHENSIVE
REVIEW OF THE VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK ZONING ORDINANCE
Director of Development Services Kallien provided a brief status update of the
process. He suggested that at the next Plan Commission meeting that the
Commission should be ready to hand off the draft to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
Mr. Kallien noted that as part of the hand off drafts of the Ordinance can then be
distributed to many of the shareholders.
Kon Savoy, Teska Associates, provided a brief overview of the zoning ordinance
update and referred to the May 8, 2017 memorandum to the Plan Commission. He
explained that memo is a recap of the items originally brought up during the
workshop meetings held at the beginning of the process and then addressed in the
draft Zoning Ordinance.
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Mr. Savoy began by explaining that language had been added to the text to address
the issue of bulk in the Residential Districts. He clarified that some new homes in
the Village are considerably larger than existing residences in a neighborhood. He
detailed that the proposed language was added to suggest pitch or other design
measures intended to prevent the new residences from dwarfing existing homes.
Member Jain questioned if homeowner associations (HOA) and covenants might be
a better means of limiting the bulk. Mr. Savoy responded that the Village standards
set a minimum threshold for Building Permits.
Director Kallien responded that the challenges with the HOA requirements are that
the Village does not enforce those regulations. The Village must issue a permit if a
proposal meets all the Village regulations. The Village Attorney and the Board of
Trustees would review all of the proposed revisions to the Zoning Ordinance. He
cautioned against the Village attempting to enforce HOA covenants.
Member Jain expressed concern about creating onerous regulations that are difficult
to enforce.
Director Kallien agreed and provided an example where the Midwest Club has some
restrictions of bulk within their covenants and it is the responsibility of the property
owner to confirm compliance with their HOA.
Member Jain did not object to the use of these standards as a guide, but felt that it
was over stepping the authority of the Village to dictate design.
Member Wilczak agreed with Member Jain, he added that these types of restrictions
would limit the market value of the home in Oak Brook. He suggested that the
larger homes are the product that buyers want and therefore limiting them could
negatively impact their salability.
Mr. Savoy pointed out that the restrictions on bulk did not limit the lot coverage,
noting that as the lots get bigger so can the structures. Member Wilczak suggested
that limiting bulk or footprint is going in the wrong direction and in his opinion will
cost homeowners by reducing property values.
Mr. Savoy noted that this issue was raised in the workshops over concern that the
sizes of new homes have a negative impact on the neighborhoods and change their
characteristics. He explained the concept of floor area ratio (FAR) and noted the
introduction of this standard for the residential lots. He detailed that the maximum
lot coverage would continue to relate to the size of the lot, the larger the lot the
larger the homes.
Mr. Wilczak reiterated that creating an FAR standard for homes in the residential
districts was a bad idea. He suggested that the new buyers do not want to maintain
large lots and desire larger homes.
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Member Jain, echoed Member Wilczak, and stated that the requirements would be
burdensome to developers.
Mr. Savoy noted that a .2 FAR was a fairly common standard. Member Wilczak
observed that the neighboring communities might benefit from these regulations,
because property owners could build bigger in Hinsdale, Elmhurst, or Downers
Grove, which would cost Oak Brook new residents.
Member Lai enumerated that he understood Member Wilczak, but countered that the
Village of Oak Brook is not Hinsdale or Downers Grove. He explained that a buyer
understands what he is getting when he joins a community.
Chairwoman Tropinski confirmed that the community would be well informed of
this debate to determine what revisions are noted and the reasons for the Plan
Commissions findings. Planner Von Drasek agreed.
Chairwoman Tropinski observed that the big homes near Elmhurst Hospital are too
close together. She agreed with Member Lai that the big homes should be limited
from overtaking the open space within the Village and noted that the community
was founded as homes in the country.
Member Wilczak responded that he was not comparing Oak Brook with neighboring
communities, he was stating that Village compete with these communities for
residents. He argued that the more limitations on development the current residents
will find a reduction in their property values.
Member Jain stated that making a decision to build a new home is complicated but
too many regulations can effect perceptions and cost property owners.
Member Lai responded that the regulations are necessary if they protect a quality of
life that the current residents desire, he felt that the enforcement of these types of
standards continue to make the Village a desirable place to be.
Member Doyle also felt that if the standards are written that they make it easy for a
developer to understand and ultimately simplify the process.
The Commission moved on to other items within the May 8, 2017 memorandum.
Mr. Savoy noted that the telecommunications structure would be a Special Use
within the commercial districts. He explained that digital signs would be allowed in
the Business Districts with some limitations.
Mr. Savoy highlighted the draft outdoor sales and food truck regulations. Member
Wilczak confirmed that the distance a food truck would need to be from an existing
restaurant would be 500 feet.
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Member Doyle suggested that within the "mobile food vending" section, the Code
should be revised to allow for sporting organizations that are not necessarily not -for-
profits or local taxing districts.
The Commission briefly discussed recreation vehicles and outdoor storage. Mr.
Savoy noted that the draft regulations would require a minimum of a one -acre lot or
more for outdoor storage of recreational vehicles.
Mr. Savoy explained the combination of the Plan Commission, Zoning Board of
Appeals, and the Planned Development Commission. Member Jain supported the
combination of committees to continue to streamline the process.
Member Doyle raised a concern that the Ordinance reflects the Department of
Development Services as the authority rather than only the Director of the
Department.
Temporary signage regulations were noted as a change to a specific time and
location limitations. Mr. Savoy noted that many of the revisions were to confirm
compliance with recent court decisions.
The Commission briefly discussed real estate signage; Mr. Savoy agreed to revise
this section so that this type of signage is not limited as temporary signage.
The Site Plan review process was noted as complicated but the Commission agreed
to make the recommendation as written and too allow further discussion to
determine if the process is necessary.
Mr. Savoy read the Commission the revised definitions for clinics and doctor's
offices. The Commission discussed the districts where clinics would be permitted
and suggested that doctor's offices by definition would be allowed by right in more
districts as they are smaller operations.
The Commission briefly discussed the definition of "family ". Member Doyle
observed that the liberal definition could lead to a considerable number of people
within one residence. Planner Von Drasek stated that staff also uses the dwelling
definition within the International Building Code to determine if a second dwelling
is established within a single - family dwelling.
The Commission briefly discussed the differences between fences and fence -type
structures. Member Doyle expressed concern that trellises may have the effect of
privatizing yards in a manor not anticipated with recent discussion of fence
regulations. Director Kallien agreed to review the language and follow -up at the
Commission meeting in June.
Member Doyle noted that he had some additional comments, which staff agreed to
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convey to the consultant.
Motion by Chairwoman Tropinski, seconded by Member Doyle to continue the
zoning ordinance updated review to the next regular meeting. VOICE VOTE:
Motion carried.
6. OTHER BUSINESS
There was no other business to discuss.
7. PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no comments from the public.
8. ADJOURNMENT:
Motion by Member Wilczak, seconded by Member Doyle to adjourn the meeting at
9:13 p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
/s/ Robert L. Kallien Jr.
Robert Kallien, Director of Community Development
Secretary
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