Minutes - 08/21/2017 - Plan CommissionVILLAG: , OF V MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 21, 2017
OAK B R, , K , REGULAR MEETING OF THE
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VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
APPROVED AS AMENDED ON SEPTEMBER 18, 2017
1. CALL TO ORDER: CALL TO ORDER
The Meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairwoman Tropinski
in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler Government Center at 7:03 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL: ROLL CALL
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairwoman Marcia Tropinski, Members Thomas Doyle, Rahma
Hasan, Raj Lal, Simon Sheers and Kenneth Wilczak
ABSENT: Member Raju Iyer
IN ATTENDANCE: Trustee John Baar (Zoning Board Liaison), Village Attorney
Greg Jones, Planner Rebecca Von Drasek and Planning Technician
Gail Polanek
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF JULY 17, 2017 July 17, 2017
Motion by Member Doyle, seconded by Member Lal to waive the reading of the
minutes and to approve the minutes of the July 17, 2017 Regular Plan Commission
meeting as written. VOICE VOTE: Motion Carried.
4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS UNFINISHED
BUSINESS
There was no unfinished business to discuss.
5. NEW BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS
A. WENNES ESTATES SUBDIVISION — 3622 YORK ROAD — FINAL PLAT — WENNES
TWO -LOT SUBDIVISION ESTATES sus -
3622 YORK -
FINAL PLAT
Chairwoman Tropinski recognized, Village Attorney, Greg Jones. Mr. Jones
explained to the Commission the responsibility and authority that the Plan
Commission has in regards to subdivision requests. He stated that the Plan
Commission was not being asked to reconsider the variation request, which had
already been reviewed and considered by the Zoning Board of Appeals on August 1,
2017. Mr. Jones noted that the meeting today was simply to hear about the
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subdivision request and if the proposed plat complies with the standards of the
Subdivision Ordinance and Comprehensive Plan. He noted that the Commission
was ask to give their recommendation on if the standards to subdivide have been
met and if waivers to certain standards (i.e. street lights, sidewalks, curbs, etc.)
should be approved by the Village Board.
Chairwoman Tropinski explained the process for the meeting noting that the
applicant would make a short presentation, followed by questions and comments
from the public and Commission.
Mark Daniel, Attorney for the petitioner and owner of the property, Chicago Land
Trust 11 -12497 began his presentation with an overview of the two -lot subdivision
request for 1.8 -acre parcel (78,383 square feet) located at 3622 York Road. He then
introduced the beneficiary to the trust, the project engineer, the project planner, and
a prospective buyer of Lot 1. Mr. Daniel asked, prospective buyer, Christopher
Alexander to the podium.
Mr. Alexander explained that he and his wife intended to build a new home on Lot 1
of the proposed subdivision (western lot). They currently live in Chicago and
decided to move to Oak Brook to raise their family. He supported the subdivision
and suggested that a home on Lot 2 (eastern lot) would give the area a
"neighborhood" feel.
Mr. Romanelli, one of the beneficiaries to the Chicago Land Trust 11- 12497, gave
an introduction and explained his real estate experience in the Village. He provided
the Commission with letters of support from Oak Brook residents and a report
regarding the Oak Brook real estate market. He argued that the property in an
undivided state was too large for the real estate market. He emphasized that there
were no curb or gutter on either Luthin or Wennes. He asserted that the subdivision
would be uniform to homes and lots in the area. Mr. Romanelli discussed his
presentation to the Village Board of Trustees on August 9, 2016, at that meeting, he
offered to purchase a portion of the right -of -way (ROW) and give back an easement
to the Village for its continued use. Mr. Romanelli mentioned the Zoning Board or
Appeals Chair's dissention from the Zoning Board's recommendation and the
recognition of the large ROW. Mr. Romanelli read Vito Moreci's May 25, 2017
letter, Linda Barbara's June 7, 2017 letter, George Reveliotis' July 26, 2017 letter
and Chris Alexander's May 1, 2017 letter. He concluded by explaining the rule of
thirds in real estate regarding land /improvements /price, stating that lots, one acre or
less, are the desirable and affordable option for Oak Brook. He noted that there were
60 letters submitted in support of the proposed subdivision.
Mr. Daniel stated that the subdivision was in harmony with the area and the
Village's plan. He reiterated the request for waivers from the curb and gutter
standards. He noted his client's willingness to work with staff on a future bike path
improvement should the need arrive. He observed that two homes within the
subdivision would add an estimated 12 additional vehicle trips per residence.
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Mr. Jon Green, engineer for the Petitioner, informed the Commission that all utilities
were present and that rural street specs are in place on both Luthin and Wennes. He
also observed that the 100 -foot ROW on Luthin was odd. He asserted that the
drainage concerns would be addressed by any proposed development of the
residences through enforcement of the Village's Stormwater Ordinance.
Mr. Daniel explained the setbacks as depicted on the plats, noting that the setbacks
were compliant with the Village standards, except the 23 -foot requested variation
(which is not necessary for the subdivision) but was included with the anticipation
that future improvements (i.e. patio, pool, etc) would provide more flexibility for
design.
Mr. Daniel responded to correspondence from Larry Herrmann regarding drainage
concerns, Mr. Daniel suggested that the correspondence included inaccurate
statements. He emphasized that the construction of new homes will require best
management practices, and that the development of this parcel would not negatively
impact neighboring properties. Mr. Daniel also noted that these new homes would
have more features in place to improve the stormwater quality than any of the
existing homes. Mr. Daniel went on to explain that the subdivision does not change
the average lot size for the area. He argued that the lots would be in harmony with
the area.
Mr. Abel, a planner for the petitioner, gave a brief introduction, including his time
working with Paul Butler. He emphasized that the land use and zoning meet the
standards and there is no loss in property values. Mr. Abel provided the
Commission with the LaSalle factors and asserted that the application complies with
the factors. He concluded that this was the highest and best use for the property.
Mr. Daniels asserted that there was good cause to approve the waivers, as there are
no streetlights, sidewalks, curb, or gutters in the area. The property owner is
agreeable to cooperating with the bike path. He noted his letter of August 15, 2017
where he detailed the compliance with the subdivision standards. He stated that the
application complies with 14 -7 of the Subdivision Ordinance and will work to
comply with 14 -6 provided the waivers are approved. Mr. Daniel requested that the
Commission recommend approval to the Village Board.
Member Sheers noted that although the lot size variation is under the preview of the
Zoning Board he did not understand how the Plan Commission could recommend
approval in light of the Zoning Board finding. He noted the similarity to a previous
application requesting the same. Mr. Sheers suggested that Paul Butler did not want
land sales for profit. Mr. Daniel stated that relief is available within the Ordinance,
and asserted his clients constitutional right to request relief.
Chairwoman Tropinski agreed that the density is not increased by this application,
which complies with the Comprehensive Plan.
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Member Doyle noted that he had been a resident of Robin Hood Ranch for 47 years.
He noted that his subdivision was not in the original Oak Brook incorporation and
when incorporated it came in as R -1, Residence District. He observed that things
are not the right size in this area of town. He noted many individuals within his area
of town have had to seek relief.
Member Hasan confirmed that the dry land area was under an acre for many of the
lots in proximity to the pond.
Member Wilczak observed the number of streets limit the development of the
eastern lot. He clarified by suggesting that approving the subdivision will create an
adverse issue for the owner of Lot #2. Member Wilczak went further to question the
financial feasibility information provided by the petitioner. Mr. Wilczak suggested
that highest and best use is not met by the application because it is not currently
legally permissible. He suggested that some of the letters of support are from
individuals who may also want to subdivide property
Mr. Daniel responded that neither the petitioner nor the village created the
circumstance of three streets. He explained that the petitioner is now seeking relief
to allow for appropriate development of the parcel. He stated that the original owner
resided in the house and must have preferred the larger lot.
Mr. Wilczak felt that the lot violates the Comprehensive Plan, and the requested
variation does not improve the issue. Mr. Abel noted that it was subdivided by the
County last in 1948 and asserted from a planning standpoint there is no impact on
the area with the slight reduction in the lot size. He suggested that the when the
property was zoned R -2 there was recognition that variations would be necessary for
some of the lots.
Mr. Daniel provided a slide noting the building to land ratio is in keeping with the
surrounding area.
Chairwoman Tropinski noted that the original development of the lot was most
likely for agricultural purpose considering the farmhouse was built in 1914.
Member Doyle suggested any approval include the recommendation that the bike
path be extended between the Luthin and Wennes. He also suggested a
recommendation that the development of Lot #2 (eastern) require a certificate of
appropriateness prior to construction. Mr. Daniel agreed to these suggestions.
Member Sheers observed that the letters submitted are not in proximity to the
subject property. In his review, they are realtors and Oak Brook residents in other
areas of town. Mr. Daniels noted that some of the immediate neighbors, some of
whom are also on lots that are substandard, yet they still object to the subdivision.
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Mr. Romanelli responded that the signed letters of support from sixty village
residents including two realtors as well as a former Village trustee. Mr. Romanelli
asserted that realtors have insight into the market.
Member Lal stated that he desire to hear from the residents.
Mr. Michael Dralle from 522 Wennes Court objected to the request. He asserted
that the request was simply to turn a profit and noted although he appreciated a
prospective buyer's opinion that he had purchased into the neighborhood knowing
that only one home could be constructed on the subject property.
Dr. Sam Grigis from 506 Wennes objected to the request. He explained that the R -2
District standard should be enforced. He suggested that allowing one subdivision
would result in many more requests, noting that the York Tavern owner, Vito
Moreci, might also want to subdivide for a residence. Dr. Girgis stated that he had
lived in the area and had never met Ms. Barbara or Mr. Reveliotis. He said his
property would lose value if two homes were built.
Ms. Rita Grigis from 506 Wennes objected to the request. She stated that being from
Wisconsin she loves trees and lakes and that is why she loves Oak Brook. She noted
the loss of trees on the subject property and mentioned that the esthetics of Oak
Brook would be damaged by the increase of density.
Mr. Ed Cladek from 408 Luthin Road suggested that he was opposed to the
subdivision and suggested that the building of two homes would damage the pond
along Luthin. He also suggested that the scale of two new homes would change the
neighborhood away from the open low- density feel.
Chairwoman Tropinski emphasized that drainage concerns for Luthin Pond would
not be part of tonight's discussion.
Mr. Frank Scarpiniti, from 3719 Spring Road, stated that he objected to the trend in
Oak Brook to take larger lots and split them to add homes. He felt it was not in
keeping with the village's plan.
Ms. Marianne Clark from 523 Wennes stated that she was the newest resident to the
neighborhood and she objected to the subdivision. She noted that she would still be
there once a house is built on the subject property. She stated that she chose this lot
as they were looking for land and space. She explained that the area is unique and
valuable and should stay that way.
Ms. Natasha Scarpiniti from 3719 Spring Road stated that she was speaking on
behalf of herself and her neighbors in objecting to this application for subdivision.
Ms. Christen Hadden from 316 Luthin Road objected to the subdivision and stated
that the requests for "only one more" home will eventually change the look and feel
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of the area.
Ms. Sue Wollensak from 3604 York Road objected to the subdivision. She
expressed concern about the properties to the south of 3604 York for those two lots
also requesting lot size variations. She also objected to a bike path on the west side
of York Road.
Dr. Gary Kronen from 418 Luthin Road objected to the subdivision. He stated that
it was going to be difficult to sell Lot 2.
Mr. Cladek asserted that the watershed from the Wennes Estate properties would go
to the pond.
Mr. Daniel suggested that assertions regarding the pond and the drainage effects
could be considered "slander of title" and he warned individuals whom were not
civil engineers to consider their comments. He noted that the petitioner has been a
good neighbor and removed diseased trees. He encouraged approval of the
subdivision and the waivers as the improvements have not been standard to the area.
Member Lal suggested that the petitioner should follow the village rules and noted
that these issues influence other areas of the village.
Mr. Jones explained to the Commission that there are two items up for
consideration: (1) Does the subdivision plat comply with the Village's code and the
comprehensive plan recommendations; and (2) Are the waiver requests to install
curb, gutter, streetlights, and sidewalk appropriate.
Motion by Member Doyle, seconded by Member Hasan to recommend approval of
the subdivision plat, observing the following conditions:
1. The petitioner will allow a construction easement should for any future bike
path be proposed along the east side of York Road.
2. The eastern lot (Lot #2 of the Wennes Estates) would be constructed in the
spirit of the Graue Mill Historic District and be reviewed for a certificate of
appropriateness.
3. Approval of the variation to reduce the minimum lot area requirements for
proposed Lot 2.
4. Approval of the variation to the north side yard setback of Lot 2 to 23 feet or
a revision to the plat reflecting the 40 -foot setback.
5. Engineering approval of the Final Plat of Subdivision.
ROLL CALL VOTE
Ayes: 3 — Members Doyle, Hasan, and Chairwoman Tropinski
Nays: 3 — Members Lal, Sheers, and Wilczak.
Absent: 1 — Member Iyer. Motion failed.
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Motion by Member Doyle, seconded by Member Hasan to recommend approval of
the subdivision plat waivers to the requirements to install streetlights, sidewalks,
curbs and gutters.
ROLL CALL VOTE
Ayes: 3 — Members Doyle, Hasan and Chairwoman Tropinski
Nays: 3 — Members Lal, Sheers and Wilczak.
Absent: 1 — Member Iyer. Motion failed.
6. OTHER BUSINESS
There was no other business to discuss.
7. PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no comments from the public.
8. ADJOURNMENT:
Motion by Member Tropinski, seconded by Member Hasan to adjourn the meeting
at 9:46 p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
/s/ Tony Budzikowski
Tony Budzikowski ,
Development Services Director
Secretary
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