Minutes - 05/21/2018 - Plan CommissionVILLAGE OF MINUTES OF THE MAY 21, 2018
OAK BR K. REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLAN COMMISSION OF THE
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
APPROVED AS AMENDED ON JUNE 18, 2018
1. CALL TO ORDER: CALL TO ORDER
The Meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairwoman
Tropinski in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler Government Center at
7:00 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL: ROLL CALL
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairwoman Marcia Tropinski, Members, Thomas Doyle, Rahma
Hasan, Raj Lal and Kenneth Wilczak
ABSENT: Member Raju Iyer
IN ATTENDANCE: Trustee Edward Tiesenga, Development Services Director
Tony Budzikowski, Village Attorney Kurt Asprooth, Planner
Rebecca Von Drasek and Planning Technician Gail Polanek
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MINUTES
REGULAR PLAN COMMISSION MEETING OF APRIL 16.2018 APRIL 16, 2018
Motion by Member Doyle, seconded by Member Hasan to waive the reading of the
minutes and to approve the minutes of the April 16, 2018 Regular Plan
Commission meeting as written. VOICE VOTE: Motion Carried.
4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS UNFINISBED
BUSINESS
A. VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK— TEXT AMENDMENT —TO ADDRESS AGE vOB -TA-ADDRESS
RESTRESTRICTED MULTI -FAMILY LIVING FACILITIES ACE MULTI-FAMIL TED
MII.Y
FACILITIES
Chairwoman Tropinski reviewed the meeting procedures.
Director Budzikowski reviewed the Village initiated request to draft an ordinance
regarding Age Restricted Multi -Family Living Facilities due to the current petition
from Senior Lifestyles. He discussed the following for review and consideration:
1. The definition of Age -Restricted Facilities. Dwelling, Multi -Family Age -
Restricted: An age -restricted or age -targeted development containing two
(2) or more dwelling units and which may include independent living,
assisted living, or congregate care. " The draft definition is consistent with
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the Village's definition of "multiple -family dwelling," but modified to
reflect characteristics commonly found in age -restricted facilities.
2. Establish supplemental Special Use Standards which include:
• Presenting an analysis of the proposed development's anticipated
impact on emergency services
• Presenting a plan addressing how emergency service calls will be
handled
• Demonstrating a market need for the proposed development
3. Identify Appropriate Zoning Districts. The zoning districts that should be
considered for this text amendment are R-5, Bl, B3, 04 and ORAL.
Village Attorney Kurt Asprooth discussed the text amendment and commented on
the draft conditions, stating that any of the village boards can consider the
conditions and ask that a fee be provided for any ambulance services provided, if it
was believed there would be an impact on the Village's emergency services.
Member Lal discussed his background and credentials relating to emergency
services and had the following questions:
• The definition of Multi -Family.
• Does the village have the manpower to absorb the burden of emergency
services if the Senior Lifestyle development gets approved?
• Is it an assumption that the village needs a senior housing development?
Director Budzikowski responded that annual emergency services numbers were not
used to create the text amendment and that it was intended to be on a case by case
basis. Determining whether or not the village has the manpower would be based on
a specific proposal requested. For example, if there were 1,000 units, then an
analysis would be needed to determine what types of emergency services the
property owner would be providing to their residents. He noted that the definition
of multi -family would be two or more dwelling units.
Director Budzikowski stated that staff believed there was a need for senior housing
considering there are none in the village and 25% of the population is aged 65 and
older. A previous market study determined there was a demand for a senior
housing facility in Oak Brook.
Member Lal questioned if Director Budzikowski believed Oak Brook Club, Forest
Gate and Briarwood Lakes are age -restricted. Director Budzikowski responded
that Oak Brook Club, which is the only multi -family facility named did not have an
age restriction. Member Lal suggested that Forest Gate and Briarwood Lakes are
age -restricted. It was noted that Forest Gate and Briarwood Lakes are the only age -
restricted subdivisions.
Member Doyle questioned if the structure height restrictions in a few of the
proposed zoning districts would be considered. Director Budzikowski replied that
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the zoning district would dictate the height of the building unless the Plan
Commission wanted to put a height requirement for the special use for an Age -
Restricted Multi -Family Living Facility in that section of the code. He added that it
could also be done on a case by case basis requesting a variation to the height
requirement for the particular district.
Member Doyle questioned if there was a restriction for rental versus owner
occupied in the districts. Director Budzikowski stated he was not familiar with any
restriction in the zoning code that would prohibit rental.
Member Doyle questioned if the number of units for this particular text amendment
should be much greater than "two or more". Director Budzikowski responded that
it was a good question and he would look into it.
Member Wilczak believed the number of districts should be limited and the fees for
emergency services should be aggressive. He said that these types of facilities
would dramatically increase the village's use of emergency services.
Chairwoman Tropinski believed it would be important to have the Fire Chief in
attendance to review specific data and brief the board on his opinion and the
capacity of his department to handle such facilities.
Member Lal stated he wanted to more specific data. Additionally, he believed the
petition is too broad and needs community feedback prior to any recommendation.
Member Doyle mentioned it would be very useful to gather data from other
communities that have senior living facilities regarding the number of calls per unit
within a specific time frame. It would allow the board to have some kind of
measure to estimate the use of the emergency services. Director Budzikowski
responded that it would be very difficult to have a direct comparison since not all
facilities are structured the same. He also mentioned this text amendment is for
petitions on a case to case basis and data will be included for a proposed specific
project each time.
Member Doyle stated for the record that the Village's Comprehensive Plan shows
that 69% of approximately 1600 households polled said that they would be
interested in a senior living facility in Oak Brook.
Mort Westman, 8 Ivy Lane did not believe the phrase "age -restricted" was adequate
for the commission's purposes and that there are other terms more appropriate.
Also, the Zoning Amendment Factors lacked expanded responses. He stated that
Oak Brook needs to continue to be considered an exclusive luxury community or it
will lose its heritage, character and property values.
Member Wilczak was concerned about Senior Lifestyle's tax revenues mainly
going to Elmhurst schools.
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Member Hasan questioned the zoning districts listed in the text amendment.
Director Budzikowski responded that three districts listed were consistent with the
current multi -family zoning for their district. 04 and ORAL are districts where
there have been multiple inquiries for senior housing.
Trustee Tiesenga discussed the data mentioned by Member Doyle from the
Comprehensive Plan.
Motioned by Member Doyle, seconded by Member Hasan to continue the matter to
the next Plan Commission meeting on June 18, 2018 when more data, research and
possible revisions will be presented. ROLL CALL VOTE
Ayes: 5 — Members Doyle, Hasan, Lal, Wilczak and Chairwoman Tropinski
Nays: 0 —
Absent 1 - Member Iyer. Motion Carried.
5. NEW BUSINESS
A. WENNES ESTATES SUBDIVISON — 3622 YORK ROAD —
PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT — 2 -LOT SUBDIVISION
Chairwoman Tropinski announced the petition and Member Lal excused himself
from the meeting.
Tony Budzikowski, Development Services Director gave an overview of the
petition from Chicago Title Land Trust, as trustee #11-12497, owner of the property
at 3622 York Road in the R2 district requesting a two lot subdivision and
subdivision regulations variations for the Wennes Estates Subdivision.
In addition, a plat of vacation was reviewed by the Village Board of Trustees on
May 8, 2018 to vacate .201 acres of the Luthin Road street right-of-way which
would increase the lot size to 87,130 square feet. The street right-of-way will be
reduced from 100 feet to 64 feet wide. The ordinance approving the plat of
vacation was conditioned on the satisfactory completion of three conditions and if
they are not met, the plat of vacation approval would not be effective or recorded
by the village. The three conditions are:
1. Village Board approval of the applicant's preliminary/final plat of
subdivision.
2. Village Board approval of the Easement Grant over the vacated right-of-
way.
3. Payment by the applicant to the village the amount of $80,000 as
consideration for the vacated right -of way.
The proposed preliminary/final subdivision plat depicts two single family lots each
containing one acre of land area. Both lots comply with the R-2 District
requirements of a minimum of one acre (43,560 square feet). There are several
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NEW BUSINESS
WENNES ESTATES
SUB. - 3622 YORK -
PREL AND FINAL
PLAT - 2 -LOT SUB.
subdivision code variations/waivers sought that include street and pavement width
reduction, curb and gutter, sidewalks and street lights would not be provided. The
waiver of those public improvements fit with the "rural' character of the
neighborhood and surrounding area.
Attorney Asprooth reviewed the petition for both the preliminary/final plat and the
variations.
Mark Daniel, Daniel Law Office, P.C. 17W733 Butterfield Road Suite F, Oakbrook
Terrace briefly discussed the petition including the following variations sought:
• 14-6-1 Conformance Required.
• 14-6-3A.2 Street and Pavement Width
• 14-6-3A.3 Curb and Gutter
• 14-6-3E Sidewalks
• 14-6-317 Street Lighting
A PowerPoint presentation was provided showing the proposed plat with all
required setbacks shown. The area along Luthin Road was vacated on May 8, 2018
showing the current and proposed lot line. He discussed all of the village requested
easement protections for the vacated property and believed each lot would
accommodate a 6,000 square foot home.
Mr. Daniel presented a slide showing the Riparian Rights & The Pond. He stated
the fundamental rule in drainage is "he who sits higher, drains lower" and
mentioned that section 2-1 of the Illinois Drainage Code states "an individual
owner can drain from his property and alter the drainage solely within his property
to manage the outflow offsite and not be liable". He pointed out the distance of the
existing two houses on Wennes Court to Luthin Pond, stating that these proposed
two lots are further in distance to the pond from any direction.
Mr. Daniel stated that after dividing the property into two lots, each lot would be
substantially larger than most of the lots on Luthin Road and would be
approximately the same size as the lots on Wennes Court. The new subdivision is
within the trend in the area and that it does meet the code requirements.
On May 8', the village approved an ordinance granting the vacation of the Luthin
Road right-of-way. The law in Illinois states that adoption of a plat of vacation
granting a portion of a road is valid, and that it is very rare that any court in Illinois
would ever reverse that. He asked that the Plan Commission consider the plat of
vacation (as approved by the village board) that makes the existing parcel a total of
two acres, which can then be divided into two one -acre lots.
Mr. Daniel noted that the Plan Commission previously requested a condition to
provide an easement to be available for a bike path along York Road. If the Plan
Commission conditions its recommendation based on a nine -foot easement for the
bike path, they would grant up to nine feet of easement on their property.
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Jon Green, President, Engineering Resource Associates stated that he performed
the civil engineering, land surveying and land planning submittal for the
application. The preliminary plat showing the existing topography, drainage and
utilities was reviewed. He mentioned that homes built on either lot would face
south (Wennes Court) and connect to the existing sewer and water mains between
the lots and York Tavern. It was confirmed with the village engineer that the mains
have enough capacity to accommodate the two lots. He went into great detail
regarding the lot's drainage and stated the lot is currently in compliance with the
village's stormwater ordinance and any future development would require further
stormwater detention for each individual lot.
Member Doyle mentioned that there had been a past village initiative to complete a
bike path on both sides of York Road and that it had not been completed in part due
to residents not willing to give up a portion of their easement. A section of the
Comprehensive Plan states that "The Village of Oak Brook has adopted a plan for
and will continue to require dedication of an open space network for bicycle and
pedestrian pathway purposes in all subdivisions. Care is to be taken in all future
planning to require easements and access for pathway systems pursuant to the
bicycle and pedestrian pathway plans, and require, when appropriate that the sub-
dividers install the improvements. The objective is to provide a network for non -
motorized transportation that permits residents access to recreation, school,
community and commercial facilities." He added that it would be appropriate to
include provisions for the easement and construction of the bike path when the east
lot is developed.
Scott Day of Day, Robert and Morrison P.C. 300 East Fifth Ave, Naperville, IL
represented Dr. Samuel and Rita Girgis, 506 Wennes Court, and Lawrence
Herman, 413 Luthin Road and stated that his clients have opposed the request for
the plat vacation, and the proposed subdivision and variations on several occasions.
On each occasion he believed the village took their objections into consideration
and previously denied the petitioners requests. On April 24, 2018 the village board
conditionally approved the plat of vacation of a portion of the Luthin Road right-of-
way and that at this point an official plat of vacation does not exist.
Mr. Day discussed the code definitions of a half street and a full street and their
particular standards. The proposed street (after the plat of vacation) would be
considered a half street which he believed is prohibited for this subdivision since it
is facing Wennes Court and not Luthin Road.
He believed there were serious drainage issues and questioned the existence of any
catch basins on the lots and that the stormwater would go into the Luthin pond.
They have to prove that their drainage system would work. The current drainage
was created in 1949 under the 1889 drainage code as a common interest drain.
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Greg Wolterstorff, Vice President and Director of Natural Resources for V3
Companies presented an exhibit from Christopher B. Burke Engineering showing
the watershed drainage to Luthin Pond. He raised concerns about the water flow in
the area and the fact that there are no storm sewers leaving the watershed and that
everything ends up in the Luthin Pond and there is no way for it to go out. The
existing primary storm/sewer infrastructure that goes under that road and heads
south is in failing condition. He believed a solution would be to create an outfall
from Luthin Pond which would cost over $75,000. The problem with subdividing
and building homes on the lots is that every new square -foot of impervious area in
excess of what currently exists would be an increase in discharge to Luthin Pond.
Mr. Day showed photos taken that morning of the lot with standing water,
suggesting drainage was an issue. He asked that the Plan Commission address the
standards that are required for a half street. He also asked that drainage conditions
be mandated if the Plan Commission grants a recommendation which include that
the developer must install an outfall facility that will allow Luthin Pond to
discharge water and Mr. Romanelli pay his share (for two lots) for the repairs to
Luthin Pond.
Mr. Daniel said the photos shown with the standing water were taken right after a
large rainfall and that by the end of the day the water had substantially subsided.
He questioned Mr. Day's exhibit showing what he called a common drain system
flowing to Luthin Pond.
Mr. Daniel believed the request for participation in the expenses to repair Luthin
Pond were being presented too late. He said that he tried to speak with Dr. Girgis
in good faith regarding cooperation for the drainage issues, but the conversation
was rejected. At that brief meeting he mentioned that DuPage County has a right-
of-way that flows into Luthin Pond. There was a 2017 grant that the DuPage
County Stormwater Committee has in place allowing residents to apply for grant
funds if they live in areas where several properties experience stormwater overflow.
The watershed slide showed that the outflow of water from Luthin Pond flows
north which is the opposite direction of Mr. Day's clients' property. He believed
the current owners have not maintained the pond and he respectfully declined Mr.
Day's request that they share in costs for repairs to Luthin Pond. There is no open
or covered drain or culvert on their property that is shared with any other property,
or that is part of a common drain system.
He suggested that a portion of the $80,000 fee being paid to the village for the
easement and could be used to construct the bike path. He agreed to the condition
to dedicate a 9 -foot easement for the bike path.
Director Budzikowski addressed the disagreement regarding the water flow from
Luthin Pond. He spoke with the Village's public works department and was
informed that there is a water main project that will occur around Luthin.
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Additionally, there is approximately $20,000 allocated to correct the outfall from
Luthin Pond. This was contingent on easement issues from several property
owners as well as with the Village Board's approval.
Chairwoman Tropinski said that she had conversations with the village engineer
and it was determined that most of the rain water from the petitioner's property
does not go into Luthin Pond, nor does it pose a problem. She stated it was unfair
to say that this property contributed to existing issues with Luthin Pond. She
believed the village is very particular about water runoff from all new construction
and that any issues would be addressed during the building permitting process. The
property is a workable piece of land that can be satisfactorily developed.
Larry Herman, 413 Luthin Road raised concerns about the drainage into the Luthin
pond. The photos taken of the standing water was not an insignificant amount, nor
was it an unusual occurrence. The fact that the parcel in question was developed to
be a 1.8 -acre lot and not be to broken down for development due to increased water
flow. He has been in discussion with the village for years regarding the problems
with the pond, which he believed are caused by any new development.
Sam Girgis, 506 Wennes Court said that Paul Butler's vision of Oak Brook was
that a third should be residential, a third commercial and a third open land. He
bought his lot due to the rural feel and believed the petitioner's lot was designed for
one home, not two and that dividing the lot would change the character of the
neighborhood.
Jeff Bulin, 320 Luthin Road raised concerns about the proposed width of Luthin
Road in addition to the change in character to Luthin Road adding that once the
properties were developed, Luthin Road would only see the rear of a home or a
fence. This would create a non -conforming issue and would forever change the
character of Luthin Road. He liked the idea of the request to develop a bike path.
Mary Anne Clark, 523 Wennes Court believed that building two homes on the
property that do not face York Road does not fit the character of the neighborhood
nor does it fit the character of Wennes Court.
Ed Cladek, 408 Luthin Road said that the neighborhood was uniformly against this
petition and did not believe it was in the best interest of Oak Brook adding that
there should be prohibited uses of the backyards due to the view from Luthin Road.
As an engineer he believed any new development adds to the pond level problem.
Mr. Daniel responded to the neighbors stating that they are not able to build the
house facing York due to the Village's Comprehensive Plan and the zoning
ordinance. He believed the proposed development of each lot has been well
planned. He noted that some neighbors have unfairly accused Mr. Romanelli of
illegal dumping and tree cutting.
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Mr. Herman expanded on the illegal dumping and did believe Mr. Romanelli had
something to do with it.
Member Doyle said that the developer should be responsible for the construction
costs of the bike path.
Motioned by Chairwoman Tropinski, seconded by Member Hasan to recommend
for approval of the preliminary and final plats for the 2 -lot subdivision as well as
the following variations to sections of the subdivision code:
• 14-6-1 Conformance Required
• 14-6-3A.2 Street and Pavement Width
• 14-6-3A.3 Curb and Gutter
• 14-6-3E Sidewalks
• 14-6-3F Street Lighting
Also subject to the following conditions:
1. A dedicated 9 -foot easement for a future bike path once the east lot is
developed.
2. The cost construction of a bike path unless the village decides to extend that
bike path prior to the development of the east lot.
3. Final engineering approval.
ROLL CALL VOTE
Ayes: 3 — Members Doyle, Hasan and Chairwoman Tropinski
Nays: 1 — Member Wilczak
Absent 2 - Members Iyer and Lal Motion Carried.
6. OTHER BUSINESS
Director Budzikowski reviewed possible upcoming cases.
7. PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
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Motion by Member Doyle, seconded by Member Wilczak to adjourn the meeting at
9:52 p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
/s/ Tony Budzikowski
Tony Budzikowski
Development Services Director
Secretary
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