Minutes - 06/17/2013 - Plan Commission MINUTES OF THE JUNE 17, 2013 REGULAR
MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF THE
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK APPROVED AS WRITTEN
ON JULY 15, 2013
1. CALL TO ORDER: CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of the Plan Commission was called to order by Chairwoman
Tropinski in the Samuel E. Dean Board Room of the Butler Goverrunent Center at
7:02 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL: ROLL CALL
Gail Polanek called the roll with the following persons
PRESENT: Chairwoman Marcia Tropinski, Members Thomas Doyle, Raju Iyer,
Naveen Jain and Simon Sheers (arrived 7:03)
ABSENT: Member Raj Lal
IN ATTENDANCE: Director of Community Development Robert Kallien Jr. and
Village Engineer, Michael Hullihan
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION OF APRIL 15 2013
Motion by Member Iyer, seconded by Member Doyle to approve the minutes of the
April 15, 2013 Regular Plan Commission meeting as written. VOICE VOTE:
Motion Carried.
4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS UNFINISHED
BUSINESS
There was no unfinished business to discuss.
5. NEW BUSINESS NEW BUSMSS
A. POLO LANE RESUBDIVISION —2.5 ACRE PARCEL OF VACANT LAND POLO LANE
RLiSUBDIV.- 2.5
LOCATED SOUTH OF 3324 ROSLYN ROAD — PRELIMINARY AND ACRES S OF 3324
FINAL PLAT—FOUR-LOT SUBDIVISION ROSLYN RD -
FOUR-LOT SUB
Director of Community Development Kallien provided an overview of the request
and noted that the subject property was the southern parcel of the recently approved
Senese Resubdivision, which subdivided a 5-acre parcel into two lots and the
property was rezoned from R-1 to R-3. The buyer of this parcel is requesting to
subdivide the property into four lots. There are stormwater issues on the property
that were addressed by the developer in the materials presented.
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 1 of 5 June 17, 2013
Ken Neumann, Greenscape Homes, LLC is the contract purchaser of the 2.5 acre
parcel located south of 3324 Roslyn Road. The proposed subdivision was reviewed
through a slide presentation.
• The site is bordered by Polo Lane and Roslyn Road.
• Each of the four lots exceeds the 25,000 square foot area minimum
requirement.
• Three of the lots have access to Polo Lane and one lot has access to Roslyn
Road.
• They have worked extensively with the homeowner association since the
roads are all private roads. The driveways for each lot are private and would
not have any impact on the association.
• They have agreed to join the Saddle Brook Community Association and the
Saddle Brook Chase Private Roadway Association following final plat
approval. Building plans for the proposed homes will be submitted to the
homeowner association. They will diligently try to be a good neighbor.
• They are working with the Downers Grove school district in regards to the
school impact fees.
• Construction traffic will be controlled with access only through Roslyn Road
and they will minimize the impact and disruption to the community. All
construction parking will be contained on site.
• They will build the stormwater management area prior to building houses.
• The stormwater management area will be maintained through a separate Polo
Lane Homeowner Association comprised of the four lots who will be
responsible for the maintenance and expenses of the stormwater management
area, which will also be included in their covenants.
• There are deed restrictions on the plat that prevents any fill in the retention
area in the future.
• The stormwater management plan reduces the overall flooding in the area.
• The plan was developed to maintain harmony within the surrounding
neighborhood and will add value to the community.
Mr. Neumann said that they reviewed the Saddle Brook Subdivision Drainage Study
ordered by the Village and prepared by Christopher Burke Engineering on October
21, 2011. He noted that the proposed subdivision represents about one percent of
the land located within the study area. The study suggested there was an overall
shortage of 26.8 acre-feet of stormwater storage within the study area, which is
about 42 percent short based on today's engineering stormwater requirements in
DuPage County. They believe that they have helped to reduce that shortage because
they provide .85 acre-feet of storage, which takes away approximately 4 percent of
the shortage and decreases the magnitude of the problem in the area.
I-Ie reviewed the existing stormwater conditions and the current flow of the water
going west and southwest. They designed a stormwater detention system that
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 2 of 5 June 17, 2013
intercepts and redirects the water going west, southwest and south toward the
retention area. After 48 hours, the water being held is released and it would remain
a dry retention area.
He respectfully requested a recommendation of approval of the proposed Polo Lane
Resubdivision preliminary and final plat.
Village Engineer Hullihan noted that the Village was a little more stringent with the
developer on the plan proposed and that the detention was to be addressed on any
further development of the property. On this half of the former Senese property
detention was taken into account and the developer has done a very good job in
addressing some of the previous problems that have occurred through time. As
Village Engineer, he felt that it would improve the existing conditions. When the
design of Midwest Chase/Saddle Brook stormwater improvements is exceeded then
the water tends to follow the established stream course, which is a tributary to
Ginger Creek and all along that, is where the water goes. The object of any further
design is to make sure that any further stormwater produced by incrementing the
impervious area are detained, and that those flows are delayed in getting into that
natural stream course would be a plus. They feel that this plan actually does that by
increasing the in stream storage and makes a bad problem a little bit less bad. If
there would be another 7-inch rain in 19 hours, there would still be a river down
Ascot Lane, but it should be lower in volume and duration.
Member Sheers questioned what existed opposite to the road at the access point
from the lots going south onto Polo Lane.
Mr.Neumann responded that at the access point onto Polo Lane would be somewhat
split between two driveways on the opposite side of the road.
Member Doyle said that over time a certain amount of landscaping tends to take
place in retention ponds and can then have an impact on the ability of pond. He
questioned the controls that were in place to prevent that from happening.
Mr. Neumann responded that on the final plat it states that no improvements can be
made in or on the retention pond and it must be maintained in its exact topography.
The Best Management Practices (BMP's) in the DuPage County Stormwater
ordinance requires that the water be filtered before it goes off the site. There are a
set of drains in the bottom of the retention area, which are filtration drains so that
there is perforated pipe with a sleeve and stone and gravel protection around it that
actually acts as a filtration system to keep the systern set up to keep the sediment
from ever blocking the system. The four-lot homeowner association must maintain
its operation, which is a vital component of the community. They are not allowed to
add additional landscaping per the deed requirements. In the event the association
fails to manage it properly, the Village of Oak Brook has the authority to give
notice, take over, lien and possibly foreclose on the properties. Most homeowner
associations do what they need to do.
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 3 of 5 June 17, 2013
Member Doyle said that the road that leads to lot four, seems to almost require a u-
turn to access the driveway to the lot. Coming from the other direction it seems to
cut across the exit, each of which presents some traffic issues if someone happens to
be driving too fast. He noted that they seem to be unusual turns to enter the property
from a safety point of view.
Mr. Neumami responded that from the actual traffic flow it is a gated community
with very restrictive traffic and low speed limit. There are only 3 homes going in
and out of the driveway in a very light traffic area. Their main concern is that the
access is reviewed to ensure that fire trucks and ambulances could make the turning
radius in order to get to the homes.
Mr. Doyle questioned the six-foot high fence shown on the back property line of the
subdivision.
Director of Community Development Kallien responded that although it is depicted
as six-feet, it must conform to the fence regulations.
Mr. Neumann responded that the six-foot fence was rejected by the village and they
have committed to having the fence meet all village requirements.
Director of Community Development Kallien said that a similar access through a
subdivision exists off of York Road with three houses stacked from west to east and
a problem has not been seen. Although it is possible to have competing turning
movements, it is doubtful.
He noted that from a development standpoint, all of the issues that were raised as
part of the rezoning and initial subdivision have been more than addressed. There is
a unified development with one person building the homes. They have worked with
the homeowners' association and will be part of the association. The existing
stormwater management is deficient and the project will enhance it.
Jim Pehta, 101 Livery Circle, President of the homeowner association said
emphatically that this developer has met the terms of what a good neighbor means.
They came to the neighbors, explained what they wanted to do, and addressed the
neighbors concerns regarding the stormwater management system and traffic issues
and have worked together over the last six months to come up with this plan. In
unison with the board, they are quite satisfied that they have a working partnership
with this developer in their community and are looking forward to this development.
Having lived there for over 30 years, he was well aware of how the traffic works on
Polo Lane. Their concern is development of this area to the highest possible
standards and believed that this is the track they were on.
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 4 of 5 June 17, 2013
Preliminary and Final Plat
Motion by Member Doyle, seconded by Member Iyer that the applicant has satisfied
the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations and to recommend approval of the
preliminary and final plats as submitted to subdivide the 2.5-acre parcel of vacant
land located south of 3324 Roslyn Road into four lots, subject to final engineering
approval.
ROLL CALL VOTE
Ayes: 5—Members Doyle, Iyer, Jain, Sheers and Chairwoman Tropinski
Absent: 1 —Member Lai
Nays: 0. Motion Carried.
b. OTIIER BUSINESS OTHER
BUSINESS
Director of Community Development Kallien reviewed the upcoming cases.
There was no other business to discuss.
7. ADJOURNMENT: ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Member Iyer, seconded by Member Doyle to adjourn the meeting at 7:48
p.m. VOICE VOTE: Motion carried.
ATTEST:
Robert Kallien, Dir or of Vnimunity Development
Secretary
VILLAGE OF OAK BROOK
Regular Plan Commission Minutes Page 5 of 5 June 17, 2013